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====Draft:Untitled Mario film====
*<span id="Draft:Untitled Mario film">{{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled Mario film }}</span> → [[:The Super Mario Bros. Movie]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Draft talk:Untitled Mario film|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Untitled Mario film|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Draft:Untitled Mario film|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-10-16&end=2023-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft:Untitled_Mario_film|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Mario film]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Mario film]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled Mario film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled Mario film]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Do not vote. Merging. [[User:Pizzaplayer219|<b style="background:#f5b836;color:#d12b1f;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Pizzaplayer219</b>]][[User talk:Pizzaplayer219|<sup>Talk</sup>]]<sub title="C" style="margin-left:-22q;">[[special:Contributions/Pizzaplayer219|Contribs]]</sub> 15:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
====Draft:Untitled animated Mario film====
====Draft:Untitled animated Mario film====
*<span id="Draft:Untitled animated Mario film">{{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled animated Mario film }}</span> → [[:The Super Mario Bros. Movie]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Draft talk:Untitled animated Mario film|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-10-16&end=2023-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft:Untitled_animated_Mario_film|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;
*<span id="Draft:Untitled animated Mario film">{{no redirect|1 = Draft:Untitled animated Mario film }}</span> → [[:The Super Mario Bros. Movie]] <span>&nbsp;<span class="plainlinks lx">([[Draft talk:Untitled animated Mario film|talk]] <b>·</b> [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|links]] <b>·</b> [[Special:PageHistory/Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|history]] <b>·</b> [[:toolforge:pageviews/?start=2023-10-16&end=2023-11-14&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Draft:Untitled_animated_Mario_film|stats]])</span></span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<small class="plainlinks"><nowiki>[</nowiki>&nbsp;Closure:&nbsp;''{{#ifeq:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|(@subpage)|[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as keep}}}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=edit&summary={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as retarget}}}} retarget]<span class="sysop-show">/[{{fullurl:Draft:Untitled animated Mario film|action=delete&wpReason={{Urlencode:[[{{FULLPAGENAME}}#Draft:Untitled animated Mario film]] closed as delete}}&wpMovetalk=1}} delete]</span>}}''&nbsp;]</small>&nbsp;

Revision as of 15:00, 15 November 2023

November 15

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 15, 2023.

Draft:Untitled Mario film

Do not vote. Merging. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 15:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Untitled animated Mario film

Do not vote. Merging. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chanterelle (The Super Mario Bros. Movie)

A very very minor character from the movie. Not mentioned in the target. No reliable sources mention the character either. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:58, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled Mario film

No longer untitled. It's been months since the movie came out and page views have died down. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:54, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lolbit

Not mentioned in the target. No reliable sources mention the character either. Pizzaplayer219TalkContribs 14:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli culture,

Delete due to general precedence for not having redirects ending in commas. Anonymous 13:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dilbert guy

Could equally refer to any male male character from Dilbert. Edward-Woodrowtalk 22:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. I've seen multiple people refer to Adams as "The Dilbert Guy" online. It seems unlikely that anybody would use that phrase to refer to any of the other characters in Dilbert. Dilbert is just "Dilbert" and the phrase would be too ambiguous to serve to specifically identify any of the other male characters. If anybody is looking for information about the characters in Dilbert then there is a link to it in the second sentence of the target article so any such readers can easily find their way to what they are looking for without any trouble. --DanielRigal (talk) 00:36, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per DanielRigal. In practice this is unambiguous. Thryduulf (talk) 01:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Thryduulf. Actual and factual. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:52, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Without context, the Dilbert guy is Dilbert (character). -- Tavix (talk) 01:42, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, the evidence is that without context "Dilbert guy" is Scott Adams - Searching for "dilbert guy" -wikipedia -"lost his mind" -"the bastards" (the latter two exclusions to filter out a very commonly cited article and video respectively) the only result on the first four pages that is about the character is the h2g2 entry. Thryduulf (talk) 10:07, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    And you need context (ie: reading the results) to figure that out. "Dilbert guy" is a guy named Dilbert, disambiguating Dilbert (character) from Dilbert (comic strip). -- Tavix (talk) 12:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Except everybody using the phrase "Dilbert guy" is using it to refer to Scott Adams, because he is (as the lead of his article says) the author of the Dilbert (comic strip). Anyone arriving at the article about the character who doesn't know who is being referred to will be confused because the context of the place they saw the phrase used was clearly referring to a person not a character. For those very few people who are using this search term to find the article about a character, who is not referred to as the "Dilbert guy" in any reliable source (and is only referred to as such in exactly one of the many unreliable ones) I've been able to find, would be best served by a hatnote. Thryduulf (talk) 14:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    So you've convinced me, per the lede of his article, that "Dilbert author" is Scott Adams. "Dilbert guy" is not necessarily Scott Adams; you need specific context telling you that. -- Tavix (talk) 14:46, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The evidence already presented is that >99% of uses of the term "Dilbert guy" use it to mean "Scott Adams". What other evidence do you want? Thryduulf (talk) 15:21, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I never asked for evidence. -- Tavix (talk) 15:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm utterly baffled by your argument then. Someone searching for this term who doesn't know what it means will be doing so after seeing it in context, and that context is exclusively one where "Dilbert guy" means "Scott Adams". If someone is searching for this term who does know what it means will be doing so to read about Scott Adams, because that's what it means everywhere it is used. If they want to learn about the character then they'll search something like Dilbert (character), Dilbert (cartoon character), Dilbert cartoon, Dilbert, Dilbert (Dilbert), or Dilbert (disambiguation). Thryduulf (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 15:22, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Hey man im josh (talk) 13:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gel guards

Delete. Non-notable alien; the original citation is archived here. Karl 334 (talk · contribs) redirected the page to a list in 2013, but the entry for the creature on the target page at that date was just "Main: The Three Doctors",[1] and he did not merge any info. If not deleted, the merge target should be The Three Doctors (Doctor Who), but that article now says merely "UNIT headquarters faces an attack by shapeless blob-like creatures", not naming them "Gel Guards" as in the BBC citation. – Fayenatic London 10:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Æon Flux(movie)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Æon Flux (movie), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 09:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bagua/Hsing-i

Delete: this redirect is not unambiguous. "Bagua" refers to baguazhang, and "Hsing-i" is a shortened form of the Wade-Giles transcription of xingyiquan. So redirecting anywhere doesn't make a lot of sense. SilverStar54 (talk) 05:11, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 08:17, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

King Edward Medical University(KEMU)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, King Edward Medical University (KEMU), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

John Hunter(rowing)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, John Hunter (rowing), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:10, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Villa-Lobos(crater)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Villa-Lobos (crater), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:07, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Judas(Lady Gaga Song)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Judas (Lady Gaga Song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Animal(Muppet)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Animal (Muppet), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 07:02, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

3rd Infantry Brigade(South Africa)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, 3rd Infantry Brigade (South Africa), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:59, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Commander of the Navy(Sri Lanka)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Commander of the Navy (Sri Lanka), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Magic Touch(Kiss song)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Magic Touch (Kiss song), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:53, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Submission(Islam)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Submission (Islam), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:48, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Derivation(linguistics)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Derivation (linguistics), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:45, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Main Man: Part II(Superman: The Animated Series)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, The Main Man: Part II (Superman: The Animated Series), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hud(prophet)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Hud (prophet), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:40, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nadar(caste)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Nadar (caste), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Roja(film)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the title and the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Roja (film), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:28, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Second Five-Year Pla

Redirects that can be expected to not be used. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 06:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Five-Year Pla

Redirects that can be expected to not be used. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 06:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Life ( 2020 British TV series)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Life (2020 British TV series), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Quran ( twelver tafsir)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Holy Quran (twelver tafsir), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kingseat Hospital ( New Zealand)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, Kingseat Hospital (New Zealand), is the target of the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:18, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We Make You ( EP)

Delete per WP:RDAB due to the extra space between the "(" and the name of the disambiguator. The title with the correct spacing, We Make You (EP), is a redirect that targets the same target as the nominated redirect. Steel1943 (talk) 06:16, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Morenoism

Neither this term nor the associated Morenoites is mentioned on the target article, Nahuel Moreno. I cannot find the terms used in any RSes, though non-RSes use them as pejorative terms for those who follow Moreno. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 01:28, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade: It may be true that no RS'es use the term (I haven't checked), but given that someone might search the term on Wikipedia (after having read some of the non-RS'es), I think it's a useful browsing aid.
FWIW, I did find some mentions by US Congress: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=%22Morenoism%22 SocDoneLeft (talk) 02:48, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 01:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep large number of Marxist and other allied left-wing sites uses the terms -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 08:35, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Terms not mentioned at their target do not deserve redirects. * Pppery * it has begun... 04:11, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • That would require that all articles have enormous footer sections for all the related adjectives, synonyms, etc, turning Wikipedia into a dictionary. WP:RKEEP #6 seems to be good for these -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 05:09, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      I don't think WP:RKEEP #6 (i.e., "The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a plural form to a singular form") applies here. The target is a person, and the redirect refers to a related idea, but not a related word form. If the idea of "Morenoism" is notable enough to have a redirect, it should be at least mentioned on the page. Other, similar concepts (e.g., Trumpism even warrant their own page. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 06:14, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I regret nothing

Not mentioned at target page, nor in references. I would typically have no idea why this redirect exists, but the edit summary states: "'I regret nothing' is what the Dude says before killing himself in EVERY game"

That being said, looking up the phrase on google gives many different results, not often associated with this franchise, so it may be WP:SURPRISEing to anyone that searches this. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:55, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I should clarify that there are dozens of videos of the Postal dude saying this phrase before killing himself, and that the phrase is even included in the Postal movie, I can’t link the videos but you can look them up on YouTube. Second of all, it is strongly associated with the series considering Postal 4’s title references the phrase more or less (and intentionally misspells it)-SignedInteger (talk) 02:47, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on retargeting?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:41, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More input is clearly necessary...
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 02:44, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mythology of Kosovo

Deletion - redirect suggest mythology of the state or region of Kosovo, meanwhile the target is about Serbian nation-building myth Marcelus (talk) 22:05, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:06, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]