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:'''Keep''', while a mention of "ultra" would be nice, I don't think it's a completely requirement in this case. People who use this search term will completely understand why they ended up at the target article, and might have previously thought that "ultra" is part of this subject's terminology. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 22:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:'''Keep''', while a mention of "ultra" would be nice, I don't think it's a completely requirement in this case. People who use this search term will completely understand why they ended up at the target article, and might have previously thought that "ultra" is part of this subject's terminology. <span style="background-color: #FFCFBF; font-variant: small-caps">[[User:Utopes|Utopes]] <sub>('''[[User talk:Utopes|talk]]''' / '''[[Special:Contributions/Utopes|cont]]''')</sub></span> 22:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
:'''Delete''' Seems redundant. And as nom stated, typing it in the search bar it will already be the first result. There are thousands of these redundant redirects by the way. This one also has no incoming links from mainspace pages, (except for [[USTM (disambiguation)]]) which is again redundant as the page [[Ultra short-term memory]] was originally created as a redirect anyway so [[USTM (disambiguation)]] doesn't need disambiguation and can be deleted as well. -- <span style="font-size:1.6em;line-height:.8em;">[[User:OlEnglish|&oelig;]]</span>[[User talk:OlEnglish|<sup>&trade;</sup>]] 23:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


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Revision as of 23:57, 26 January 2024

January 26

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 26, 2024.

Porsche 998

Section doesn't exist, and 998 isn't mentioned, so I suggest a delete. 176.33.241.125 (talk) 20:05, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Screenlife Games

There is no mention of "Screenlife" in the article. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: For an opinion on the pre-BLAR article history.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 17:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zite

I'm not sure the Flipboard acquisition Zite is the primary topic here. If the primary topic is the pasta then retarget it to Ziti. If there's no primary topic, move Zite (disambiguation) to Zite. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 15:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move Zite (disambiguation) to Zite per nom. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Webware

"Webware" is not mentioned at the target article Web application, and anyway is ambiguous. "Webware" as a blog is not mentioned at CNET but is mentioned at Rafe Needleman but I don't think that's a good target. I suggest delete both and use Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Korteweg–deVriesequation

Not a credible typo. Colonies Chris (talk) 11:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • 83 page views since creation, but none in the last couple of months. From the page history it seems it was created to fix a problem on an external website. If that external incoming link no longer exists, we won't need this redirect any longer, but it doesn't seem to do much harm. —Kusma (talk) 12:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is not the type of typo I'd personally nominate, but now that we're here I fully agree and vote delete, not helpful or logical to type in without any spaces, will never see plausible use now that pageviews have dropped to zero. Utopes (talk / cont) 23:20, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ultra short-term memory

"Ultra" is not mentioned at the target, and using Search for "Ultra short-term memory" will show Short-term memory in the results. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, while a mention of "ultra" would be nice, I don't think it's a completely requirement in this case. People who use this search term will completely understand why they ended up at the target article, and might have previously thought that "ultra" is part of this subject's terminology. Utopes (talk / cont) 22:59, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems redundant. And as nom stated, typing it in the search bar it will already be the first result. There are thousands of these redundant redirects by the way. This one also has no incoming links from mainspace pages, (except for USTM (disambiguation)) which is again redundant as the page Ultra short-term memory was originally created as a redirect anyway so USTM (disambiguation) doesn't need disambiguation and can be deleted as well. -- Ϫ 23:56, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

T:WPBIO

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

As per the Prefix Index: [1], there are only two T: space redirects that point to WikiProject banners. The one to WP Tech, and this. T: redirects are already few and far between, and this particular redirect is already very confusing and niche, as it is a redirect not just to the template, but to the work groups section (which would otherwise not be expected). Out of the very limited number of T: redirects that would need to be reached on a regular basis, such as at DYK and ITN, it doesn't make sense for this redirect to exist, and to skip well into the prose at that. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't see the benefit of it. The WPBIO shortcut is sufficient. -Kj cheetham (talk) 10:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Although I don't use it as often anymore as my Wikipedia usage has decreased since those days, I'll repost some of what I wrote in the [2009 November 11 deletion discussion]: slightly edited Well.. I'll tell you the reason I created it. I do a lot of manual placing of that template on bio talk pages and found myself having to refer back to this list of parameters when adding those specific workgroups because I can never remember the names of these parameters, so I created a quick 'lil shortcut to take me directly there to that section. So you may not find any use for it but I certainly did. But if others also think it's useless, or if there's now a better alternative, then it's not a big deal to me if it gets deleted. -- Ϫ 23:41, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P:HVNY/DYK

Much of the contribution to this page was made in 2011, making this subpage more or less abandoned. This page does not seem like it needs to exist as a pseudo-namespace redirect, all while occupying mainspace with the rest of articles. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The first redirect has a surprisingly high number of page views, probably because it is linked from Wikipedia:Shortcut as an example. It does no harm at the moment, so keep at least until it has been out of use for a while. —Kusma (talk) 20:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P:AN/M

Primarily developed in 2009, this PNR to a portal subpage seems to no longer have utility that requires a redirect. Instead of landing at a regular portal from typing this shortcut in, one is thrust into the backrooms of an untouched maintenance sector. This does not seem like a location in need of a PNR that occupies mainspace with the rest of articles. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deep state in Russia

No longer mentioned at target, although Deep state § Chechnya is there, so we could retarget there? Or just delete. QueenofHearts 06:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P:BW/NA

Does not contain any new articles since its creation (with 3 edits) in 2014. It is probably not necessary to have this title be a redirect from a pseudo-namespace, which otherwise occupies the same area as other articles and confuses anyone that stumbles upon it. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is also not plausible ("BW" is not an abbreviation of "Rhineland-Palatinate"). I believe it was originally meant to target a subpage of Portal:Baden-Württemberg, but that is not currently in portal space. So delete unless a relevant use can be found. —Kusma (talk) 20:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Current computer and video game events

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

I am not convinced that this redirect is helpful. Also in existence are a set of Current sports events redirects, which all are redirects to Portal:Current events subpages which are built for this purpose. On the flipside, these are not, and just go to the main Portal article for video gaming, which leaves people lost in a sea without a paddle. There is Portal:Current events/Video gaming/Headlines which is what I'd consider to be a more helpful target for this title in theory, but the recent game announcements are Red Dead Redemption 2 and Destiny 2. While it might've been more helpful in the past, I don't think we're going to be able to well-accommodate readers with this redirect, only discourage them due to a lack of the coverage they were looking for. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:45, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry Dave

The word "sorry" does not ever appear at the target article, but Dave is mentioned. While an apology towards Dave may occur in the film, its existence as a redirect is questionable, as it does not seem apparent or necessary if it's just a one-liner that is never addressed at the page. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:40, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that" is not just a random one-liner, it's almost certainly the second most quoted line in the entire film (after the immediately preceding "Open the pod bay doors, HAL."). Thryduulf (talk) 21:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a fair point, I should have used different words to describe it (I'm more-or-less familiar with this quote as well). This redirect does differ from the others that have been nominated alongside it, in the sense that this quote is substantially shorter, and possibly more worthwhile due it being likelier to be typed and easier to maintain than some of these others. I didn't mean to imply it was random, but that's a potentially workable analogy. While it is certainly a quotable line, it's "random" in the grand scheme of all quotes; not only in relation to this film but beyond it. Among the quote redirects we do keep, it's necessary to have something for the readers that choose to type in these lines verbatim, else it's not a helpful redirect. As it's the second most quotable line, it could be easy to incorporate if that's the direction taken. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 14:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • weak keep per Thryduulf, as some people do search by quote if they can't remember the actual title -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 07:20, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No mention added to the target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 05:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a really unideal outcome in my opinion; that whole category consists of titles that already teeter on the verge of usefulness, and is a good spot to look for unhelpful redirects. Wikipedia isn't a search-by-quote service, and it wouldn't be very enticing if it was, with only 500 redirects currently tagged as R from quotation. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:01, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You had already tagged it before you had voted. Jay 💬 09:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep, part of the most notable quote relating to the film. —Kusma (talk) 12:22, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Post-war Germany vs post-war Japan

This is a previous title of Responses of Germany and Japan to World War II crimes, which was redirected to the target at AfD in 2006. That redirect is of marginal utility, but this one is outright misleading: There are many metrics by which one can compare post-war Germany and post-war Japan, of which attitude toward war crimes is but one. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 01:38, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What an odd redirect... I don't think it has any value in keeping. There doesn't look to be any serious comparison of Germany and Japan at the War crime article. Moreover, you're right - war crimes are only one of the ways a "Germany vs Japan" comparison can be made.
Delete this redirect. If someone wants to make an article with an actual analysis of post-war Germany and Japan, they could do so - and maybe with a more encyclopedic name... PhotogenicScientist (talk) PhotogenicScientist (talk) 14:18, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UST Growling Tigers men's volleyball

As far as I can tell these are two entirely different teams (one for National University, the other for University of Santo Tomas), but UST_Growling_Tigers#Volleyball points to the Spikers as well. So not sure what to recommend here, would appreciate a second pair of eyes. Rusalkii (talk) 00:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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