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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:25, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Studios Hergé
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Appears to fail notability. While the namesake of the studios, Hergé, is undoubtedly notable, I don't see how these studios are. When I conducted a WP:BEFORE search, most of the sources were about Hergé and not the studios themselves, and/or do not have WP:SIGCOV of the studios. The article has been tagged as requiring additional sources since 2014, and most of the sourcing is unverifiable (the two book citations do not have a page number, or ISBN, making the claim violate WP:PAGENUM, and the other is an interview with a link to an insecure website). As an WP:ATD, I'd be fine with a redirect to the Hergé Foundation, which appears to be notable, since the Foundation is the successor to the studios. Bandit Heeler (talk) 10:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, plenty of sources giving attention to the studios, their role in the creation of the later Tintin stories, the many famous artists who worked here (most famously Bob de Moor, Jacques Martin and Roger Leloup probably, what happened to it after Hergés death, ... Plenty of reliable and indepth information from even English-language sources like this book (note, one or two of the pages listed are about the older advertising Studio Hergé had on the thirties, not the actual Studios Hergé, but most are about this one), this book, this one, ... And plenty more in French language books like this one discussing the Studios at length. Fram (talk) 10:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- And I would object to a redirection, because while technically the Foundation is the successor, their role was completely different: the Studios were a creative groupn making new comics and new drawings (for ads and so on), while the Foundation was an exploitative group, reusing existing images for new uses (e.g. clothing) but not creating things. Fram (talk) 10:45, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Notability has been demonstrated now. The French article also has some additional sources. Cortador (talk) 12:08, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Both Hergé, Son of Tintin and The Real Hergé: The Inspiration Behind Tintin (linked by Fram above) offer significant coverage that demonstrates notability. Toughpigs (talk) 17:26, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. No notability problem whatsoever. Also the length of the article is sufficient. The article does need more inline references, already covered by a warning. Nomination is a clear NEXIST failure. AFDISNOTCLEANUP and SNOW apply. gidonb (talk) 01:24, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The studios have received sufficient sig coverage throughout their run. X (talk) 09:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to The Beezer. Liz Read! Talk! 01:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
The Beezer Book
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No refs on the page for many years. Nothing found which suggests there is independent notability to the inclusion standards beyond The Beezer, not clear this content could be supported fully with references per WP:V even if it was to be merged. WP:NOTEVERYTHING JMWt (talk) 07:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to The Beezer. These are common finds in secondhand bookshops in the UK. Have briefly searched for sources for WP:V but found nothing. Orange sticker (talk) 11:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Redirect. It could be redirected to The Beezer per ATD. Desertarun (talk) 09:39, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:26, 24 April 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to The Beezer as no standalone sig coverage of the topic. X (talk) 16:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete and WP:SALT as a title-gaming recreation of a previously salted page. Any editor proficient with regex is welcome to add the title to our blacklist. Owen× ☎ 14:34, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Sanket Mhatre (voice actor)
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Article was previously deleted and salted at Sanket Mhatre/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanket Mhatre and was recreated by a sock. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:53, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep - I'm skeptical of many of these sources but the Economic Times writeup is quite in-depth, and describes him voicing the title characters in Hindi dubs of works including Deadpool, The Martian, and the Bourne films, as well as several well-known Tamil and Bollywood films. Courtesy ping CambridgeBayWeather regarding the salting. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: This is an interview [1] I don't see anything else. I don't see enough sourcing in RS to keep the article. Oaktree b (talk) 23:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Keep The Times of India [2] says Sanket Mhatre, who is one of the most sought-after dubbing artistes for films from Tamil, Telugu, and Hollywood industry. Sounds notable to me. And he did the voice for the main character in a notable television series. Dream Focus 08:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)- Given that The Times of India is known to accept payments in return for positive coverage I don't think you can trust any puffery it heaps on someone. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops! I just checked and that is not a reliable source. Dream Focus 19:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- Given that The Times of India is known to accept payments in return for positive coverage I don't think you can trust any puffery it heaps on someone. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:30, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
- KEEP per this, this, this. This interview by IGN India, this by Cinema Express, and this by Cine Blitz give some weight of notability. He has been interviewed by several media. --Twinkle1990 (talk) 14:08, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Twinkle1990 has found coverage providing the general notability guidelines have been met. Dream Focus 17:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The article lacks sufficient reliable sources to meet notability's standards. The Times of India is not reliable.Southati (talk) 13:13, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Forensics on sources: We have an extensive list of voice actors, which name-drops our subject; this article about something else, titled "How dubbed versions of Hollywood hits are churning out heroes," in which, again, the name of our subject is mentioned; a promotional piece on a commercial website that uses our subject in its video games; a couple of interviews, here and there, which, per se, do not support notability; more irrelevancies, such as this; and so on. The fact that the article has been created by an account indefinitely blocked for using multiple odious socks does not help. -The Gnome (talk) 15:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and salt Sources which aren't trivial, like all the interviews listed by Twinkle1990, are not WP:IS. Sanket Mhatre is already salted after being recreated more than half a dozen times. Sanket Mhatre (voice actor) and all combinations of such title, including Sanket Mhatre (Voice Actor) need to be salted. Clear case of gaming wikipedia for promotional purposes. — hako9 (talk) 02:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
- The term for that is "title blacklisting". Sanket Mhatre (Voice Actor), by the way, is already salted, as is Sanket Mhatre (actor). I'm not quite convinced that title blacklisting is necessary, although we're very very close to that line. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:20, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 05:40, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Hemmo Paskiainen
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The article cites no sources, and I was unable to find significant coverage, only brief mentions. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Pahkasika. toweli (talk) 12:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete since there are no sources that can support, let alone verify, independent notability. -The Gnome (talk) 16:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The subject of the text does not possess any kind of well-supported, significant, independent notability. All we have is admirable passion. -The Gnome (talk) 19:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 22:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Mahabharat (animated TV series)
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of notability under SNG or GNG. Series that is only on YouTube and and a streaming service. Not only does it not have GNG sources, it really has zero sources. Of the two references, one is to it's sales page and the other is a link to one of it's youtube videos. North8000 (talk) 18:44, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG. Two unreliable sources and no other with any coverage on the series to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone page. RangersRus (talk) 13:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note Creator moved it to draft during the AFD discussion and that move was reversed. North8000 (talk) 14:49, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 00:32, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Catch! Teenieping
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This page use many invaild sources. When you click on a page, there are also invalid pages. Guidelines have not been significantly addressed in reliable secondary sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability Hkm5420 (talk) 05:10, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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- The secondary sources for the show seems to be mainly available on the South Korean news websites. Here. --린눈라단 (talk) 19:43, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Added a couple of things. Various sources attest of the notability of this series, including some in English (The Korea Herald, among other). The page needs trimming and probably some cuts and removal of some primary sources that are perhaps unnecessary but notability and popularity seem established. Not sure there is a valid reason for deletion in the nominator's rationale: Afds are for deletion not cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:49, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Mushy Yank's improvements. The Korea Herald article is strong, and the Busan.com article is good as well. There's enough here to indicate notability. Toughpigs (talk) 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - I can see some coverage on the subject. I would like to add The Korea Herald, JoongAng Daily etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkkingg (talk • contribs) 11:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Crumb family which has been restored to this version per consensus. If material is to be merged, the history is there. Star Mississippi 03:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Charles Crumb
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Fails WP:BLP. Notable primarily due to his familiel association with Robert Crumb. Schierbecker (talk) 14:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Crumb family per the proposal at Talk:Charles Crumb#Merge to new article Crumb family. Jfire (talk) 15:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect as suggested. Bearian (talk) 17:19, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge This could easily be solved by merging this bio into the Crumb Family page. Go4thProsper (talk) 14:24, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
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- I think the proposal is to create a new article. It's not a bad idea. Schierbecker (talk) 23:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Correct; see the discussion I linked above. And the person who closes the AfD does not need to be the person who turns Crumb family into an article -- they can add {{Afd-merge to}} to Charles Crumb and let the community implement the decision. Jfire (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Well, there has to be an existing article to Merge/Redirect to when this discussion gets closed as far as I know. I might leave this discussion for another closer. Liz Read! Talk! 01:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz, the AFD at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Crumb_family turned a valid listicle into a (bad) redirect. The previous version at [3] could be restored. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 02:46, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Well, there has to be an existing article to Merge/Redirect to when this discussion gets closed as far as I know. I might leave this discussion for another closer. Liz Read! Talk! 01:26, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Correct; see the discussion I linked above. And the person who closes the AfD does not need to be the person who turns Crumb family into an article -- they can add {{Afd-merge to}} to Charles Crumb and let the community implement the decision. Jfire (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
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- @Schierbecker, Jfire, Bearian, and Go4thProsper: Ok with restoration of previous version of proposed merge target as a start? ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 08:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fine with this. Schierbecker (talk) 15:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree with these edits and support this version. Go4thProsper (talk) 23:30, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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