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Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Peer Review

Hi all, I thought this would be a good place to ask if some here would like to add peer review comments on the article for the Song Dynasty of China, its talk page here at Talk:Song Dynasty, and its peer review page found here at Wikipedia:Peer review/Song Dynasty/archive1. If anyone would like to critique the large amount of work I've done on the article, please do so. Also, add anything that you feel might be needed. Thanks!

--PericlesofAthens 06:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed. The request was also added to the WikiProject China Peer review department. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 17:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Phasing out sidebar

I have proposed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_China#historical_timeline to phase out Template:History of China in favor of a footer timeline used m:EasyTimeline and adding Template:Infobox Former Country to every dynasty page. Does anyone want to comment or help?--Jiang 04:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 FAR

Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 14:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shen Kuo for FAC

Hi guys and gals, I have recently nominated the article on Shen Kuo for featured article status. Feel free to review the article and provide your objections/support/comments, etc.--PericlesofAthens 13:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tai Shi Gong

Hi there. I have some concern over the translation of Sima Qian's title to Grand Historian. I didn't know where to turn since is no active discussion on the Sima Qian page. Since this is the group that maintains the page for Shiji, I thought this would be the most appropriate place to voice my concern.

My concern is two fold. First of all, the word Tai carries a meaning closer to "first", rather than "grand". Most of official titles, like Tang Taizong and Song Taizu, takes the meaning of "first". The same connotation applies to Sima Qian's case. So rather than the "Grand Historian" it should be the "First Historian".

Second of all, the title "Grand Historian", or even the "First Historian" is more of an epithet. It is like how we call "Richard the Lionheart", in this case, Sima Qian The Grand Historian. Tai Shi Gong is a title used to completely replace his name in order to avoid uttering it. If someone just says "The Lionheart King", it feels like an simple literary device to switch up the reference. It would be considered bad style to use "The Lionheart King" for an entire article. Similarly, because "The Grand Historian" is more of an epithet than a title, it would be impossible to write an article using only "The Grand Historian" without sounding pompous; when in fact, we use that title to sound respectful.

The solution I present is simply keeping the original title in pinyin. Tai Shi Gong will be Tai Shi Gong. Shiji will be Shiji. A completely foreign word is more suitable for stand-alone use.

That is my two bit on the subject. I really hope this can at least spark some new discussions. --64.180.11.169 08:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA nom

The Tang Dynasty article is on hold after being nominated for Good Article status. VanTucky (talk) 00:47, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I just wanted to point out this developing article, the history of east asia, for people who are passionate about Chinese history. China has had a large influence on its neighbors in the region over the years. See history of Europe for comparison. Common elements in the history of East Asia might include:

  • the arrival of Buddhism from South Asia / India
  • Taoism and Confucianism and its spread to multiple East Asian countries
  • Neo-confucianism in the "middle ages"
  • the Mandate of Heaven, and its impact on relations between countries over the years.
  • the advent of the stirrup and the arrival of the Mongols in the region.
  • the invention of gunpowder in China and its spread throughout the region.
  • the invention of the printing press in China and its spread throughout the region.
  • the arrival of the European powers, and its effect on technology, diplomacy (e.g.: the mandate of heaven), philosophy, etc.

I hope we can all work together to improve this article. 64.231.193.236 15:55, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

collaboration of the history projects

Hi, I'm newly appointed coordinator of the Wikipedia: WikiProject History. I was coordinator of the Wikipedia: WikiProject Military History before. My scope is to improve the cooperation among the different history projects andf use the synergy of a common infrastructure to improve article quality. One idea would be to merge small project into a larger wikiproject history with a common infrastructure and the small projects continuing independently as task forces of this project. What are your suggestions? Greetings Wandalstouring 15:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I've taken it upon myself to adopt the article Four Great Inventions of ancient China, as it was being abused by euro-centric POV edits. I've cleaned it up and added from other articles as I felt was neccesary, but I would like a look over from someone in this group. Also, I'ld like to know if I can change the rating from Start-Class to B. Thanks, lk 10:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Requested Move on PLA operation/invasion, Tibet

It has been proposed here that People's Liberation Army operations in Tibet (1950–1951) be renamed 1950-1951 invasion of Tibet.

Please join our discussion expressing your viewpoints. 219.73.9.154 (talk) 08:50, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up - I have created Portal:History of Imperial China. If anyone feels like helping out, it would be most appreciated :) -- Naerii 18:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

China and PRC articles request to be renamed

User:SmuckyTheCat is requesting that China be renamed, and replaced by the People's Republic of China article at "China". 70.55.88.176 (talk) 07:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nanyue -> Nam Viet

Nanyue has been requested to be renamed Nam Viet 70.51.10.4 (talk) 06:33, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1421 hypothesis -> mergeto -> 1421: The Year China Discovered the World

1421 hypothesis has been proposed to be merged into 1421: The Year China Discovered the World (book article). 70.51.9.9 (talk) 06:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The discussion has been open since April on the appropriate article talk page --Matilda talk 06:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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Urgent article assistance - Tianjing's struggle Incident

Folks, would someone please take a look at this article. It looks like it has been translated from Chinese but it needs a lot of work to get it into shape. I already took the liberty of adding {{WPCHINA|history=yes}} to the the talk page. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Chinese history

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Chinese imperialism → Territorial expansions in the history of China

Chinese imperialism article has just come up at WP:RM for renaming. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

History of the Han Dynasty

History of the Han Dynasty a new article I've recently created, yet it's 85 KB in size. I'd like someone here to have a look at it and provide some input on how to improve it, or what needs fixing in the article. Thanks.--Pericles of AthensTalk 02:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Three articles needing experts

Hi, may I point the members of this group to the three articles ‎Liu Chang, ‎Liu Cheng and ‎Liu Fen, which would surely benefit from the attention and work of some experts in this area. Best wishes ~~ Phoe talk ~~ 00:35, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Comparison between Roman and Han Empires. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 12:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at [AFD] for Comparison between Roman and Han Empires. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 23:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese history 1793 - 1844

I wish to link with this page. My site at www.houghton.hk has considerable useful information on foreign activities at Canton and along the coast in the period. The China and Opium chapters are particularly apposite.210.245.207.36 (talk) 00:50, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]