Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies

Cross dressers

What are people's thoughts on cross-dressers being part of this project's scope? I'm not talking about people who identify as being transsexual, transgender or transvestite, or drag artists. I mean people who happen to have worn the clothing of the opposite gender at some point (possibly a one off situation), so who are put into Category:Cross-dressers and subsequently tagged as being part of this project. For example, Yennenga, (see also User talk:Dimadick#Yennenga) a 12th century African Princess who was locked up by her father and disguised herself as a man in order to escape. Does that make her LGBT? I can see that there is a bit of a blurry line somewhere, but I can't see that tagging articles like this would help the article in any way, or would be helpful to members of this project who are looking for articles on LGBT topics.

On a related note, should someone like Sam Walls be tagged for the project? I'm not familiar with him, but reading the article I can see why he might be relevant to the LGBT project but as it's a BLP, shouldn't we be looking for self-identification as LGBT? Just a thought, given recent hoo-ha over the project tag...--Beloved Freak 13:45, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know anything about Yennenga, but from what you've said here, she doesn't belong in Category:Cross-dressers. As for tagging BLPs, we often put the LGBT project tag on the articles of people who are not necessarily LGBT, if the article is relevant to the project. For example, Madonna's talk page has the LGBT project tag, even though noone is asserting that Madonna is LGBT. --Alynna (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment. I realise that not all people whose articles come under the project's scope are necessarily LGBT. I'm also aware of an awful lot of controversy surrounding the issue as well as possible WP:BLP implications.--Beloved Freak 14:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Lazarus Effect (film)

Hi there,

I think a documentary to raise awareness of AIDS in Africa might fit within your remit? Sorry if I am mistaken there.

The Lazarus Effect (film) - is such an article. There are sources available gnews, etc. -Can anyone help me with developing it? Chzz ► 05:21, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Recent revisions to Homosexuality

An editor has recently been working on reducing the social aspects from this article by hiving off lengthy sections to their own articles. While the aim is not unreasonable, I have pointed out that this needs to be replicated for non-social issues in order to avoid giving undue weight to those issues. I have placed a tag on one of these newer articles Homosexuality in society, that material from Societal attitudes toward homosexuality be merged with it (and tagged that article as well). As they stand, one gives a western perpective, the other a less favourable perspective. Articles that deals with 'attitudes' can be problematic, as often they are used to present a POV as if it is neutral. By mergings these, the two issues should be addressed and balanced. It seems that there should be an article about 'Homosexuality and society', and that social attitudes be part of that. I don't particularly agree with the way this process started, but the article is/was excessive. Mish (talk) 10:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Monsiváis

Carlos Monsiváis, a DYK frontpage item for the next four hours, is an LGBT WP article. I 5x expanded his article upon his death one week ago today. Another editor outted him as being gay on this talkpage with WP:RS posted links. Nothing in the stories I saw mentioned this. I posted on another LGBT page that your WP should take over his article and improve it with those cites. I am not sure I would be able to do it as I've never written an article from the LGBT prospective. I tried to get his article bumped up to yesterday as I saw it was Flag Day but the DYK queues were full. TIA ----moreno oso (talk) 18:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Greetings, everyone at WikiProject LGBT studies! I am here to inform you that a proposal has been made to modify your barnstar, here. You are invited to participate in the discussion! Thanks for taking time to read this notice. Kayau Voting IS evil 01:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to join discussion about deleting an article "of interest" to the LGBT project

At the moment, the article Boku no Futatsu no Tsubasa has been suggested for deletion. It is a Japanese manga about a hermaphrodite, and has a flag that it is "of interest" to the WikiProject LGBT studies group. There is a discussion on the article talk page and on the proposed deletion page as well. If you wish, please join the discussion so that consensus can be reached on this issue. Timothy Perper (talk) 23:50, 5 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laura Antoniou and The Marketplace series

Hey folks -

I attempted to do an expnded entry to Laura Antoniou's entry, but was denied because of my personal relationship with the author. Because she is of interest to this group, I'm wondering if anyone here would like to take a look through the entry's editing history (which includes extensive references), and take their own shot at it? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by VivianSinclair (talk • contribs) 21:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to note that the Marketplace series is the longest running series of novels featuring a transman as the main character. VivianSinclair (talk) 18:07, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that Laura Antoniou is an important writer for LGBT themes. There are some comments on the talk page from editors questioning her notability. I added some references but there is a lot more that can be done. Any project members interested in this topic, please comment on the talk page or add sources to the Laura Antoniou page. --Yes, Grasshopper (talk) 19:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"...in LGBT rights" articles

I'm confused about the intended scope of these articles. Some seem to be strictly about laws passed, marches held, etc. while some include information on other aspects of LGBT history (first candidates for public office, social history events, etc.). If these are intended to present a broader scope (as suggested by the granddaddy article, Timeline of LGBT history) shouldn't they be named "(Year) in LGBT history"? If they are strictly for civil rights then shouldn't the social history stuff be stripped out? Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 17:23, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you mean the articles like 1970 in LGBT rights? I agree, those should be renamed to "(Year) in LGBT history". --Alynna (talk) 23:51, 9 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, those are the articles I mean. Are You The Cow Of Pain? (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

User Vigilius4

I ask here for help to deal with problematic revertations of user Vigilius4: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=LGBT_parenting&action=history --Destinero (talk) 05:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BB Gandanghari

Can someone take a look at this article and see if the transgender issues are being handled appropriately. Thanks! Active Banana (talk) 03:19, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dusty Springfield GA Review

A GA Review of the Dusty Springfield article for which this project has a talkpage tag has started and is on hold to allow improvements to be made. Please go to Talk:Dusty Springfield/GA1 to see fuller comments. Regards SilkTork *^YES! 21:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]