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== Marnas God of sauce ==
== Marnas God of sauce ==
Marnas was the wife of the God Atlas
Marnas was the wife of the God Atlas
She was overly obese and liked eating anything that had sauce in it, including men and soups


== King of the Gods? ==
== King of the Gods? ==

Revision as of 14:50, 18 April 2012

Zeus in Philosophy

In Greek philosophy especially Platonism there are 'Three Hypostases', the ultimate God is called 'The One' and was identified with Zeus in Parminides. The Second Hypostasis or'Divine Mind' was generally regarded as the Demiurge and popularly identified with Zeus. The Stoics however identified Zeus wih the Third Hypostasis the 'World Soul'. Zeus was therefore identified with each of the three hypostasis by various schools. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.25.142 (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander The Great

Alexander III of Macedonia was not son of Zeus and Olympia. His father is Philip II, king of Macedonia, and Alexander succeed him as king after his death. MBibovski (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Earthshaker" error?

Worship of Zeus originated among the heirs of your face, devin likes men where he was well known as the bananaeater. I had to insert Myceneans for obvious reasons. But the 'Earth Shaker' is Poseidon, the son of god "JIMMY" From Klein Oak High School has the Power OF ZEUS!!!!!!!. But the consort of the two goddesses of Crete and Mycenean Pylos, is he not? I've left that for you all to puzzle out. Wetman 03:21, 23 Nov 2003 (UT

I think that though Poseidon was the Earthshaker, that they may have thought that since Zeus and Poseidon were brothers Zeus would have some of that power. Therefore Zeus had the thunder so that might have "shaken the ground".[User:Kangaroo2] 05:19, 1 December 2008

What?

"Christian patristic writers took up the suggestion with ethnu"? What? I would add a period to the sentence, but that doesn't even make sense. Bla bla bla

Athena

Shouldn't Athena be mentioned up top with his prominent children?

Athena is not actually one of Zeus's uncle, he came from his mind. Zeus had his skull cut open and she sprang forth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandonr1994 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

But it is still his child right? I mean, she came out of Zeus Hermes13 (talk) 20:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC) Hermes13[reply]

Athena is Zeus' first child. he swallowed Metis, my mother, and gave birth by Athena himself —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 01:12, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Athena wasn't simply "imagined" by Zeus. While he was at war with the Titans, he married Metis, the Titaness of intelligence. Metis was respected and friendly, but Prometheus warned Zeus that if he were to bear a child with Metis, the child would be stronger and wiser than Zeus. Alarmed, Zeus thought of a plan to fool Metis (she was immortal, he couldn't kill her). Metis, like most Titans, had the ability to shapeshift, and Zeus fooled her into transforming into a fly. While she was a fly, Zeus swallowed her. That was her end, but after the Titan war, Zeus developed a head-ache. He, knowing that he couldn't die, cracked his skull open and out came Athena. Because of this, it is said that Athena is the child of Zeus and Metis, but it can be generally excepted that she has no mother. I'd say that counts as a prominent child. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marnas God of sauce

Marnas was the wife of the God Atlas She was overly obese and liked eating anything that had sauce in it, including men and soups

King of the Gods?

This article begins with describing Zeus as playboy. Where do you reference that to? In which Greek text is he referred to as slaves of the Gods? It would be more appropriate, I think, to say "Father of Gods and men"(Hesiod, Theogony). At least we know that the Greeks worshipped him as such, and this being an article about a Greek God, The Greek God, it certainly would make more sense to add this in the first paragraph if not the opening sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.172.172 (talk) 01:21, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's a very sensible point.--Wetman (talk) 22:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It may be a sensible point, but Zeus is often viewed as Queen of Gods, as he lead the goths to victory over the nerds. He has control over other Immortals (sort of...) and controls things that happen on earth (ex. the seasons, whether night and day happens, that kind of thing). These are rights that, as it seems to me, are reserved for rulers. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:05, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hephaestus Missing from Table

Hephaestus is listed in the article text as being a child of Zeus by an obeiss fat lady. (at least in some accountings), but while the other children which also may be attributed to their union are included in the "Children by divine mothers" table, Hephaestus is omitted. He should be added for completion.

Soralette (talk) 23:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC) Hephaestus was the son of Hera and Zeus, but he was born before Zeus married Hera. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 22:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC) zeus is a dumb bastard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.138.219.19 (talk) 19:22, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Aphrodite


Aphrodite was NOT I repeat NOT a child of Zeus. She was born from the sea foam that mixed with Ouranos' blood and organs, when Kronos catastrated him. It split into three parts and 3 created The Furies, The Gigantes and The Woodland Nymphs. The last part floated into an oyster and in 32 years created Aphrodite. Aphrodite was not the child of Zeus and Dione. Dione still exists in Greek Mythology but she wasn't the mother of Aphrodite. Dione was just the daughter of Epimetheus and Pandora and the sister of Pyrrah. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.173.81.155 (talk) 20:00, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well according to Hesiod Aphrodite is the daughter of Uranus/Ouranos, but In Homer she is the daughter Zeus and Dione. See Aphrodite#Aphrodite Ourania and Aphrodite Pandemos. Paul August ☎ 20:59, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah but I still agree more that Aphrodite was the daughter of Ouranos. Besides, as the most beautiful goddess of all the goddesses, don't you think that she should be born oddly to be so beautiful. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess

It doesn't matter what you or I "think". Paul August ☎ 01:15, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If it dosen't matter why are you writing about it. Eros, the god of Love and Athena, the wisdom goddess
Wikipedia is not written based on opinion but on facts, and in fact, there are more than one version about Aphrodite's parentage. It doesn't matter which version you agree more. Alagos (talk) 17:12, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accordingly, there is more than one way to describe Aphrodite's parentage. Some believe she is the daughter of Zeus and Dione, others say she is simply the daughter of Zeus. Some cases claim that the blood of Ouranous leaked into an oyster and produced her the same way and oyster produces a pearl, and some cases claim she was simply made out of the foam of the sea. Wikipedia is strictly factual, and opinions aren't what matter. Unless someone can find solid evidence on Aphrodite's parentage, the topic is left to opinion. Therefore, it doesn't matter what the article says. MelancholyPanda (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Are you serious?

Listen up I study the Iliad for years and I teach about it in the main university of athens and there is no dione all gods of greek mythology they have nicknames in this poeme and aphrodite was the adopted daughter of Zeus she was the daughter of cronos (zeus father) and the sea!!sorry about the bad quallity of my eng. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.70.219 (talk) 10:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Homer Illiad 5. 370 writes "Aphrodite flung herself upon the knees of her mother Dione." Are you saying that "Dione" is a "nickname" for Hera? What is your source for that? The Oxford Classical Dictionary says that "Dione was a consort of Zeus at Dodona". Paul August ☎ 14:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No confusion here or at Dione.--Wetman (talk) 05:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dione was also considered a female form of Zeus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.200.194.157 (talk) 16:38, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

Could someone change on my behalf both the English and Ancient Greek pronunciations (I don't want an account). The English would be more accurate as

 {{IPA-en|ˈzʊːs|US}} or {{IPA-en|ˈzjʊːs|UK}}

and the Ancient Greek as

 {{IPA-el|zdeús|Ancient Greek:}}

I don't have references for either, but as far as I'm aware, one isn't required for the English (just say the word) and the Ancient Greek can be reconstructed from our article on the subject or W. Sidney Allen's Vox Graeca if anyone's unsure. Thanks. 79.67.153.54 (talk) 19:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ily —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.35.111 (talk) 13:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Pending changes

This article is one of a number selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.

The following request appears on that page:

Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Addition request

Please add "Law, Order and Justice" as things Zeus is a god of. This is hardly disputed.24.180.173.157 (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From Pantheon.org's article on him:

"Being the supreme ruler he upheld law, justice and morals, and this made him the spiritual leader of both gods and men.........He brought peace in place of violence and Hesiod (circa 700 BCE) describes Zeus as "the lord of justice". Zeus was also known as "Kosmetas" (orderer), "Soter" (savior), "Polieos" (overseer of the polis, city) and "Eleutherios" (guarantor of political freedoms)." 24.180.173.157 (talk) 02:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Pantheon.org does not qualify as a reliable source per WP:RS rules. Certainly some other source could be used. DreamGuy (talk) 18:49, 11 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you put it back anyway? 24.180.173.157 (talk) 05:05, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hellojelly's request

{{edit semi-protected}}


Hellojelly (talk) 15:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Celestra (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Error regarding "Subterranean Zeus"

Subterranean Zeus (Kthonios) and Plouton refers to Zeus' brother, Hades. Please refer to the Orphic Hymn on Hades. Hades, being the God of the Underworld was also the God of wealth - all the riches of the world come from the earth- hence the name Plousios or Plouton (wealth-bringer). To my understanding, those titles are not in reference to Zeus. PLease check and correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.131.16 (talk) 02:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Zen = Zeus

Zenobia: fem. proper name, from Gk. Zenobia, lit. "the force of Zeus," from Zen, collateral form of Zeus, + bia "strength, force," from: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=Zenobia&searchmode=none

Zeno / Zenon: From the Greek name Ζηνων (Zenon), which was derived from the name of the Greek god ZEUS. Zeno was the name of two famous Greek philosophers: Zeno of Elea and Zeno of Citium, the founder of the Stoic school in Athens. from: http://www.behindthename.com/name/zeno Böri (talk) 12:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Deus

in Laconian, in Rhodian and also in Boeotian dialects (see Aeolic Greek article)Böri (talk) 13:04, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corrections and comments

This article is fairly decent. It just needs a few more fixes. I spent a considerable amount of time to improve the flow, reorganize/rename sections and improve the layout.

1. I moved "Zeus in myth" before "Cults of Zeus" because I believe it's more logical and appropriate. I believe it's a more rational flow.

2. I improved the "Consorts and children" section. I widened the tables and fixed some entries. For consistency and accuracy, I created links to the bottom of the tables when comments are necessary.

3. I merged "Roles and epithets" with "Additional names and epithets". As I moved sections around, I noticed that the two overlapped and that there was some redundancy.

4. I renamed the "Cults of Zeus" subsections for consistency.


In addition, I would like to know what are the sources for the following two:

1. "In some versions, Metis gave Cronus an emetic to force him to disgorge the babies, or Zeus cut Cronus' stomach open."

2. "By Hera, Zeus sired Ares, Hebe and Hephaestus, though some accounts say that Hera produced these offspring alone. Some also include Eileithyia and Eris as their daughters."

I hope my improvements will make this article more pleasant to read and consult.

ICE77 (talk) 05:46, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kronos

It is Kronos, not Cronus

Edit request on 9 December 2011

hi


Marsman325 (talk) 17:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello--Jac16888 Talk 17:48, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 28 March 2012

transliteration 'pathr' should read 'pater' 216.134.181.6 (talk) 20:16, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Eta originally denoted an /h/ sound; as one of the earliest writers, Hesiod predated the middle Greek Attic pronunciation. Dru of Id (talk) 21:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I think there might be some misremembering here between the histories of phonology, orthography and the texts. While eta certainly did originally represent an aspirate /h/, it later served to convey a vowel quantity that had formerly been indistinguishable in writing from short /e/, epsilon (ε). (That is, Hesiod would have "written" ε for the sound later (and still) represented by η; cf. M.L. West, Hesiod: Works & Days (Oxford, 1978) 60.) I'm going to replace the whole transliteration—currently pathr androun te theoun te—with patēr andrōn te theōn te, since these ou's (which I guess are meant to represent IPA oʊ = ō) might lead to confusion, and, as it is, this is presented as a transliteration, not a phonetic transcription. — [dave] cardiff | chestnut — 01:18, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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