Talk:African Burial Ground National Monument

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unsourced information[edit]

Someone has obviously put a lot of work into this article, but a lot of it is unsourced. I'm not great with wikipedia so I thought I'd just point the problems out here rather than summarily changing the article.

First:

"African Burial Ground National Monument at Duane Street and African Burial Ground Way (Elk Street) in Lower Manhattan (New York City) preserves a site containing the remains of more than 400 Africans buried during the 17th and 18th centuries." <- Not Sourced.

"Historians estimate there may have been 15,000-20,000 burials there." <- What historians? Who are they? Not Sourced.

Sources have been more explicitly added to body of article, where they referred to content of paragraphs. According to WP:MOS, the Lede does not generally include cites, but is supposed to be a summary of cited material in the body of the article. Additional cites are being added to the body.Parkwells (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

"This is considered the "most important historic urban archaeological project undertaken in the United States." After the Howard University studies, the remains were reinterred at the site in a respectful ceremony.[9]" <The source listed does not make any comment on the direct quote made. Who said it is the most important historical urban archaeological project undertaken in the United States? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.244.100 (talk) 11:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

This is the direct GSA quote at its website African Burial Ground, which was cited. The project has been a collaborative effort among several federal agencies, Howard University, and other authorities and stakeholders. The reinterment is described at the same website, under "Reinterment". Another cite has been created to make that clear, but it is appropriate to describe as "respectful" a ceremony created in consultation with a specialist Black History center, and incorporating African rituals. All language does not have to be quoted to be used.Parkwells (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

information about Aarris Architecture firm[edit]

A new wikipedia account with username Aarrisarchitects edited the article, and after some review i have chosen to revert all of those edits. As i explained with a welcome and spam warning at the user's Talk page, I was concerned about whether the edits were helpful or not, because i noticed that they added external links to the Aarrisarchitects firm and to two architects at the firm. And, they deleted at least two good references to news articles. And, I don't see what they added, except for naming both of the owners/founders of the architect firm, which I am not sure adds to this article about the national monument.

After that, I looked at the Aarris-revised text further, and see that both external links added were to exactly the same URL, and that the URL is merely promotional about the architect firm, with no information about the African Burial Ground National Monument. It is not as if there is any new information provided in the edits themselves, and there appears to be no relevant information at the architectural firm's website. It is not as if they have pages of preliminary and final designs, and discussion of the design process for this monument. In fact, although there may be a picture of the monument, I see no text in their webpages about the monument at all. So I choose to delete the edits entirely and not add the URL to an external link section.

I hope that Aarris or others will feel free to comment, explain, question here. doncram (talk) 07:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

picture needed[edit]

Does anyone have an actual picture of the monument. There is no reason to have the 3D rendering up anymore. -FIRExNECK

GSA Controversy[edit]

This page completely ignores the controversy around the GSA's (mis)treatment of the burial site, the huge protests by members of the African-American community, and so on. I think there should be a section on this. I don't have time right now (finals are next week), but I'll see if I can do it myself over the summer. Some places to start looking, if anyone's interested:

Bones Beaurocrats: New York's Great Cemetery Imbroglio. Spencer P. M. Harrington. (I think it's in the March/April 1993 issue of Archaeology, but I'm not sure.)

Seizing Intellectual Power: The Dialogue at the New York African Burial Ground. Cheryl J. La Roche, Michael L. Blakey. Historical Archaeology 1997, 31(3):84-106.

These are taken from my World Archaeology class' course reader.

Dargueta (talk) 09:13, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The Burial Ground[edit]

The site and the discoveries/findings of the Howard University team need to be discussed in more detail, as they gave insight into African-American history. Have started this description.Parkwells (talk) 13:44, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Negros Burying Ground[edit]

Good additions to the history; it had not been clear before. I rearranged slightly for chronological order. Parkwells (talk) 16:00, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Recently used sources?[edit]

Medford, Edna Greene, and Michael L. Blakey. "African Burial Ground Project." Encyclopedia of African-American Culture and History. Ed. Colin A. Palmer. 2nd ed. Vol. 1. Detroit: Macmillan Reference USA, 2006. 30-33.Gale Virtual Reference Library. Web. 21 Oct. 2016.

Mazama, Ama. "African Burial Ground Project." Encyclopedia of Black Studies. Ed. Molefi Kete Asante and Ama Mazama. Thousand Oaks, CA: SAGE Reference, 2005. 33-34. Gale Virtual Reference Library. Web. 21 Oct. 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesVitale (talkcontribs) 16:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

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