Talk:Alice de Janzé

Alice de Janzé was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
April 13, 2010	Good article nominee	Not listed

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Alice de Janzé/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Nikkimaria (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be reviewing this article for possible GA status. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 13:16, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I believe this article is not up to GA standards at this time. Please feel free to renominate once the below concerns have been addressed. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 15:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Writing and formatting

Underlinked - please add more internal links to satisfy WP:Build the web. There are also some inappropriate links - for example, why does "eponymous" link to "White Mischief", especially given that that article is already linked at the beginning of the section? CHECK
Biographical articles should have WP:Persondata CHECK
Make sure all occurrences of "Janzé" have the correct accent. Name consistency is a general issue - for example, Ogden vs Odgen, de Trafford vs De Trafford
Numerous typos and grammatical errors - please copy-edit thoroughly
Organization needs work. Too many subheadings under "Biography". Could even make these headings and remove "Biography. Subheadings are inconsistent and at times confusing or unnecessarily complicated. Could combine "White Mischief" and "In culture" (and possibly "Descendants") into "Legacy"
Avoid run-on sentences and short one- to two-sentence paragraphs
Per WP:MOS, italics are only used for quotations if they are present in the original CHECK
The two list-like sections should become prose
Wikilinks in the article text should not be duplicated in "See also" CHECK

Accuracy and verifiability

There are several contradictions in the article. For example, the lead claims she died in October, while the infobox says September CHECK
Be careful to reproduce direct quotes exactly, and double-check for inconsistencies
"In culture" and "Descendants" both need more citations
Need more consistency in referencing format. Newspapers and books need page numbers; websites need accessdates, titles and publishers. Check for typos and errors in referencing
Blogs do not qualify as reliable sources CHECK
I have serious doubts about the reliability of the Frances Osborne article, given its language and obvious elaboration
Be sure to differentiate between titles and subtitles when referencing newspapers - ref 36 gives the wrong title CHECK
The external links add absolutely nothing of value and should be removed CHECK

Broad

More relevant details needed, more irrelevant details should be removed. For example, a brief explanation of "happy Valley set" would be helpful in addition to the linked article, but there's no need to include information on who else was held in the same jail cell

Neutrality

Please see WP:WTA and WP:WEASEL - certain words introduce an editorial bias and should be avoided
Even if everything in the article is cited, it's still necessary to write it according to NPOV, avoiding judgment and editorialization

Stability

No issues - largely the work of a single contributor. I would suggest getting someone else to read over the article, just to get another opinion CHECK

Images

You needn't bold her name in image captions, except maybe the one in the infobox CHECK
Date for the infobox image needs to be fixed - should reflect the date the image was taken/published, not the date it was uploaded CHECK
Check consistency between the description given for Alice_silverthorne.jpg and the corresponding information at the source link CHECK
You should probably refer to her as "Alice Silverthorne" or simply "Alice" in the captions of images taken before her marriage. Also, make sure that your captions are verifiable - you don't know that she was 20 in a certain picture because only the year is provided, thus it could have been taken before or after her birthday CHECK
HappyValley.jpg - Trzebinski is not the sole author of that book
The FUR for AliceFred.jpg claims that it is the only available picture to illustrate Frederic de Janze - this is untrue, as he is included in the Happy Valley image. Furthermore, the fair-use newspaper tag clearly indicates that "Use of the image merely to depict a person or persons in the image will be removed." A similar issue exists for the obituary photo CHECK
Why is her obituary photo included alongside the section about Erroll's murder? CHECK
Sarahmiles.jpg includes no fair-use rationale, and no copyright information CHECK

Bibliography

I can't do it

Spicer, Paul (2010). The Temptress: The scandalous life of Alice, Countess de Janzé. London: Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-1-84737-782-1.

and there is a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr%C3%A9d%C3%A9ric_de_Janz%C3%A9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.104.57.144 (talk) 06:22, 12 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Count of Janzé

Why people says "De Janzé" when it's spelled "Janzé", without the "of", when the title is not here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 (talk) 04:53, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]