Talk:Alois Brunner

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Misc[edit]

There is a banner on this article now, saying: "The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see discussion on the talk page." ---and then there is nothing on the talk-page. Could the editor(s) who have inserted the POV-banner please give a reason, here on the talk-page? Thanks.

Also: the best summing up of Alois Brunners life, at least his post-1945 life, that I have seen has been in Robert Fisk´s:

  • Pity the Nation: Lebanon at War (3rd ed. 2001). London: Oxford University Press; 727 pages. ISBN 0192801309

...strangely, that book (or the original articles) aren´t mentioned here. According to Fisk it was in Egypt that Brunner was employed as a "consultant" in torture etc. The Syrian Bath-regime "inherited" him from a previous regime (according to Fisk, who tried to interview him). I´ll insert the info. when I find the correct ref. (if nobody else has done so in the the mean time). Regards Huldra 12:05, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Also: there is pityful little about all the nastiness he commited (or, more formally: is accused of comitting) during WWII. I believe some came to light during the Eichman-trial, at least I remember him mentioned in Hannah Arendts book about the trial ("The banality of Evil"). That should also be added to this article. Regards, Huldra 15:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

333 000USD[edit]

Any other Wiki informs about 333 000 USD reward. Xx236 10:58, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

ratlines / CIA[edit]

These kind of statements need better sources than just a website [1]. The only other source I could readily find is a (1998) book by Peter Wyden, but this book does not provide footnotes (neither does the website link). There probably should be more info on Brunner in due time, because of the recent declassification of many documents of this period. Intangible2.0 16:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references ![edit]

In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

  • "Guardian" :
    • {{cite news | title = French court strikes blow against fugitive Nazi | url = http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/article/0,2763,445717,00.html | publisher = The Guardian | date = [[2003-03-03]] | accessdate = 2007-07-30}}
    • [http://www.guardian.co.uk/nazis/article/0,2763,445717,00.html French court strikes blow against fugitive Nazi], ''[[The Guardian]]'', March 3, 2001

DumZiBoT (talk) 03:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

€333,000 reward[edit]

How would if be possible to have a reward issued in Euros in 1995? Boothferry (talk) 21:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Good question, but with "Nazis" everything is possible. Haven't you noticed? --105.2.58.83 (talk) 01:13, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Connection to the Gehlen Organization[edit]

Shouldn't his connection to the Gehlen Organization be mentioned in this article at some point? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.28.170.95 (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Reliable witnesses?[edit]

The quote: "According to The Guardian, he was last seen alive by reliable witnesses in 1992, and by journalists in 1996."

So... journalists are not reliable witnesses?

On reflection, that seems apt. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ketchumk (talkcontribs) 20:45, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Categorisation[edit]

This article was tagged with Category:Syrian Nazis, however there is no mention in the article of any Syrian citizenship. I have removed the category until a reliable source is provided. Peacemaker67 (send... over) 22:19, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

BND[edit]

Bettina Stangneth's recent serious history book "Eichmann before Jerusalem" repeatedly refers to Brunner as working for the West German BND. However I don't see a reference given and since the mentions are in passing I don't think it is enough. But it indicates there is more information out there. Zerotalk 23:23, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Link to SWC report[edit]

The link to the Simon Wiesenthal Nazi War Criminal Report only produces a 3-page addendum, not the full report. Unable to locate correct link. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 13:00, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Lede cleanup[edit]

Cleaned up the lede in a series of edits:

  • removed several duplicate references from the lede about material unlikely to be challenged and already covered and properly sourced in the article body, (no unique references have been deleted from the article)
  • moved some text out of the lede that was not covered in the body at all, to the proper body section(s),
  • altered a controversial figure in the lede about the number of deportees down from 140,000 to "over 100,000" to conform to sourced figures in section 'Until 1945' and un-tagged that statement,
  • reorganized scattered sentences and added glue to make a coherent lede paragraph about his post-WWII narrow escape from the Allies, his flight to Syria, and surviving various capture attempts; and
  • moved excessive detail about periodic media speculation on Brunner's whereabouts down to the body, replacing it with a summary statement instead, and ditto regarding reports in 2014 about his 2010 death.

The lead is cleaner and tighter; no longer contains original material not covered in the article, and is more streamlined. Mathglot (talk) 01:12, 12 January 2016 (UTC) edited by Mathglot (talk) 01:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)


Brunner's famous quote "I would do it again" comes from a journalist who was fired from his paper for falsifying stories. The journalist's story comes from a supposed telephone call. Brunner denied the quote. Brunner worked on the Madagascar deportation project before it fell through. He also worked on the Zionist supported relocation to Israel. Most "history" on Brunner comes from unreliable sources - more legend than fact. 2601:181:8301:4510:D23:64F9:78AF:34F0 (talk) 11:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)