Talk:American football

Infobox subheading edit request

The infobox subheading, "Highest governing body ... International Federation of American Football" is requested to be edited to read, "Highest **AMATEUR-LEVEL** governing body ... International Federation of American Football", along with a request that both the NFL and NCAA are added in separate infobox subheadings as the highest governing bodies at the professional and collegiate levels, respectively. Both of these subheadings should be listed above the listing for what should only be the Highest *Amateur-level* governing body, the IFAF.

The infobox, as currently configured, ignores the fact that both the National Football League (NFL), along with collegiate-based NCAA Football, both headquartered in the United States, are and have been, the sources of the highest level of play of the sport of American Football--far and away, operating at the forefront of historical and operational development from the founding level, over a 100+ year lifespan. To have to even point this out here is nothing short of ridiculous. Furthermore, to singularly designate the IFAF, headquartered in Paris, France of all places, a *thoroughly amateur-level* league organized only very recently in 1998, as the "highest governing body" of the sport of American Football, to the glaring exclusion of the actual long-time keepers of the flame, is the very definition of surreal.

Yes, one may be aware that the well-established and deep-pocketed NFL provides some support to the IFAF (mainly through their support of the US national IFAF team) and to other organizations, as the NFL has a direct stake in what they hope will someday be a world-wide proliferation of the sport. However, the NFL is in no way subordinate to the IFAF, either in practice or description. The infobox in this article is in severe need of a change to better reflect both the reality of primary governance and historical proprietorship concerning this sport. 71.112.240.132 (talk) 00:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

The edit content, time stamp and the identity of the editor who first cited the IFAF in the infobox is as follows:

"| union = IFAF" "Revision as of 18:54, 20 April 2017 (view source) 2804:d59:269d:8200:98fb:e736:17c8:d0ee (talk)". So, it appears that some anonymous editor quietly inserted this infobox template edit without first attempting preliminary discussion in the Talk, labels it "Highest governing body", without even defining the modifier "highest" in this context and it isn't even questioned by the ranking editors? I thought 'consensus' was the operative term when it comes to editing WP. So, where's the consensus here? 71.112.240.132 (talk) 22:35, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Canada in Lead

For those who don't know, American football is actually played as a high school sport in British Columbia, Canada, where it is known as "football" [1], not American football. Whether or not other codes of football are known and played in Canada is totally irrelevant. BilCat (talk) 06:16, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2022

American football page's been incorrectly edited to remove the Canadian invention of the game and removed the actual first game using McGill rules (modern football not using feet and throwing the ball with modern team sizes and composition)

https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2015/05/14/history-may-14-1874-how-canada-created-american-football/#:~:text=While%20Canadian%20James%20Naismith%20invented,a%20game%20developed%20in%20Canada. 45.72.196.117 (talk) 18:41, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. BilCat (talk) 18:42, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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Intro

I long ago had proposed that this page be labeled simply Football and that soccer-related ones be qualified; instead, this one was qualified. But recent edits on New York City taught me a lesson. There, I had the position that the intro had to refer to the city first by the page's title name (New York City, not New York). But apparently not, according to other editors. New York City, on that page, is defined as an alternative name in the intro. So I think the same goal can be accomplished here in the intro with the commonly-used name of the sport, football, used in the intro, offset in commas by the alternative names, such as American football. I'll make that change, and reference my comments here in the edit summary. I think it's a very positive change that ceases defining this huge global sport as some sort of secondary sport to that one where they kick round balls around for a few hours :). 15:39, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

The specific wording in the Lead sentence is the result of a number of discussions, some quite long. As such, I've reverted your changes, and you'll need to get a clear consensus to support your proposed wording first. In general, it's not a good idea to copy the style of an article on a completely different subject such as NYC, which is probably also the result of long discussions to suit the wording to that article. BilCat (talk) 17:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)