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Requested move 20 August 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Page moved as per consensus. —usernamekiran(talk) 21:08, 4 September 2017 (UTC)



Artsakh (disambiguation)Artsakh – per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, i.e. there is no primary topic. There are three roughly equally important topics that "Artsakh" can refer to: Nagorno-Karabakh, Artsakh (historic province) and the new Republic of Artsakh. —  AjaxSmack  02:39, 20 August 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 16:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Note that, until this undiscussed move in March of this year, the title "Artsakh" was occupied by the Artsakh (historic province) article. Since then the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic article has been moved to Republic of Artsakh due to an official name change. Pinging previous participants at this move discussion.

Relisting note: although all the voices here are supports, as AjaxSmack pinged more users I think we should wait until they respond and also gain consensus on the "Republic of" prefix. DrStrauss talk 16:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Support. It should be that in cases like this where there is significant doubt as to whether a primary topic exists, the default is to assume that there is none, and to have a DAB at the base name. That is not yet reflected in any guideline, so I will plead WP:IAR for now and see this RM as a small part of building consensus toward adopting it as a principle. Andrewa (talk) 18:48, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
  • Support. I fully agree with such move, the "Republic of" prefix is unneeded. B.Lameira (talk) 05:21, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:

Maybe it would help a little if we note that while there are many redirects that begin with "Republic of", there are also many articles that begin that way...

I think it's okay to leave the Republic of Artsakh article title as is and name the dab page "Artsakh". The "Republic of" prefix then becomes a natural disambiguation for the article on the republic.  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  09:08, 30 August 2017 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Requested Move[edit]

I honestly think that "the Republic of Artsakh" is the primary topic for the word "Artsakh" as it is the only entity in the world that identifies itself by that name. Everything else is historical. I think it should redirect to "the Republic of Artsakh" for the same reason that "Armenia" redirects to the "Republic of Armenia" instead of the kingdoms or regions known as "Armenia" in antiquity and the Middle Ages.

Why shouldn't "Artsakh" redirect to "Republic of Artsakh" if these unrecognized/partially recognized states do:

Kentronhayastan (talk) 08:02, 19 October 2017 (UTC)