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Asaba (city)

Hello @Jamie Tubers:, how about we move the page to Asaba (city) instead. That way the common name as you said stands out. Stanleytux (talk) 22:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We've had a discussion similar to this in the past; the guideline on wikipedia (WP:NCDAB) is that: when it is time to disambiguate a place, the norm is to disambiguate with the higher division where it belongs. In this case, Asaba is a city, and its higher division is a state. That is the normal way to disambiguate a city name - Oh there's even a similar scenario right on the page: there's a hatnote pointing to "Asaba, Shizuoka", a chinese town. That is the guideline. Is there a particular reason why you think this method is not sufficient in this case?--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:58, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jamie Tubers:, you know very well that Asaba is a city and not a town, you campare it to the Japanese town, and we can't use the naming patterns for towns and counties or local government areas for cities. How many cities are named that way on Wikipedia? The common way of disambiguating cities here is by using "(city)" after city name, or simply including City as in Tai (city) and in Oklahoma City. Stanleytux (talk) 06:15, 26 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There's a guideline on Wikipedia, which i already cited above. Tai is an exception probably because it is not a city existing in present day...so no subdivision to disambiguate with. "Oklahoma city" is a common name, just like "Benin City". "Asaba City" is not a common name. As it stands; "Asaba, Delta" is the appropriate title, per wikipedia guideline. Want examples? 1, 2, or click on any category listing cities.--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:43, 31 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Addition of unsourced material

Certain editors are bent on placing the following material into this article.

...lower Niger River, which divides Igboland into two unequal parts...
Asaba is generally known as .... the western section of Igboland...

They offer this source as a reference for the statements. Looking at the source, it is clear that the expression "Asaba is generally known as the western section of Igboland" does not appear in the source. The source does not even mention Asaba. Adding this expression therefore is an issue of original research. Furthermore, the source itself, is a primary source, and is un-vetted, meaning that the material has not gone through varying levels of rigorous third-party academic peer review, and therefore the source does not meet the requirements of WP:SCHOLARSHIP. Just fyi, I don't care if Asaba is the western section of Igboland or not. I don't care about that. What I am interested in, is having Wikipedia articles properly sourced with verifiable and reliable sources. Apart from all this, this article is about Asaba, and not about Igboland or the River Niger. Musings and observations about Igboland and River Niger should be done in their respective Wikipedia articles. If you do find a reliable source to back up the claim of "Asaba being generally known as the western section of Igboland", please feel to re-add the material with the reliable source. Thank you. 78.49.184.211 (talk) 08:44, 26 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 December 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved Asaba, Delta→Asaba and Asaba→Asaba (disambiguation) per nom. No such user (talk) 12:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Asaba, Delta → Asaba
Asaba → Asaba (disambiguation)

– Without 'Nigeria', it doesn't look like a place. Josedimaria237 (talk) 18:34, 4 December 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran • sign the guestbook • (talk) 04:37, 12 December 2021 (UTC)— Relisting. Danski454 (talk) 00:19, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Asaba, Nigeria is also an option. The vast majority of articles titled this way in Nigeria do not use the word "State" in the placename, but I'm not sure that's correct. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 21:08, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@力: Asaba, Nigeria should be the correct name. Josedimaria237 (talk) 16:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The current title is correct per WP:PLACEDAB, however, I believe that policy needs improvement. See discussion at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (geographic names)#WP:PLACEDAB and disambiguating by state/province. 162 etc. (talk) 22:24, 4 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose while "Delta" is clearly ambiguous I don't think "Asaba, Delta" is though. This is like WP:SHORTFORM where although some districts use a longer name such as London Borough of Sutton the qualifiers use the shorter form namely Belmont, Sutton. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:44, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Crouch, Swale The proposal says 'Asaba, Nigeria' not 'Asaba, Delta State'.

Josedimaria237 (talk) 23:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's because you've changed it, my opposition is to the original suggestion to Asaba, Delta State. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:01, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it because that's a better name.

Josedimaria237 (talk) 17:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose! it's fine as is and follows WP:PLACEDAB. 157.97.81.244 (talk) 17:11, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Asaba, and Asaba -> Asaba (disambiguation). This looks like the primary topic to me. See page views, in which it gets more than 50% for all the topics. — Amakuru (talk) 14:07, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Asaba, as suggested by Amakuru. The only other competing topic that isn't a WP:PARTIAL title match is Asaba, Shizuoka, which gets ~1% as many views as this article. Colin M (talk) 20:23, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted, to discuss PTOPIC move. Danski454 (talk) 00:19, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Previous proposals were move to Asaba, Delta State, and Asaba, Nigeria. Danski454 (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Asaba, and Asaba -> Asaba (disambiguation) as per above.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:39, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.