Talk:Blood II: The Chosen
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crappy article
[edit]looks like a gamefaq, articles like these are the shame of wikipedia.
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removed copyvio
[edit]The entire "weapons" section is a copyright violation from the game's manual and has been removed. See http://www.planetblood.com/baytor/b2-weapon.shtml - the text in italic is from the game manual. --Cornflake pirate 05:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikiproject videogames assessment
[edit]Article remains start class, low importance. Some suggestions:
- The chapter boxes containing bald location lists are not useful and need removing. So there's an area called 'Steam Tunnels' in chapter one, why is this relevant to someone who hasn't played the game and wants to get an understanding of it?
- The article lacks inline citations (footnotes), they need to be brought in.
- Two of the four main sections in videogame articles, reception and development, are missing completely.
- The game's plot needs summarizing a lot more efficiently, "he goes here, then he goes there", a lot of this material is not needed to understand the plot and actually detracts from readability.
- As the tag suggests, trivia sections are best avoided altogether, if these nods towards films etc. have been mentioned in reviews etc. then a sentence to that effect could be inserted into gameplay. Otherwise they're just in-jokes, which aren't worth noting.
- Take a look around the videogame project's Good and Featured articles for some examples of reception/development sections, citation templates etc.
Please resubmit the article for assessment when you feel it has been improved. Someoneanother 12:29, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Reduced Plot Summery
[edit]- I noticed that the plot summery has been shortened, I understand that it was a little long for Wikipedia. However, the new section is missing vital plot content, such as Caleb's lack of willingness to embrace his role as The One that Binds, Gideon and Caleb's complicated vendetta, CabalCo's dark research, and so forth. Also the statement "Caleb’s three friends appear through the rift and tell him that he must destabilize the realities" is the exact opposite of what the plot is about. As is "A psychic beast known as the Nightmare is causing the four to relive the horrific moments of their lives that led them to join the Cabal", only Ophelia and Ishmael's nightmares deal with joining the Cabal (Caleb's was fighting the Cabal, a sort of reenactment of Blood, and Gabriella's is a story of her/him in a non-Cabal related haunted mansion). I understand that Wikipedia does not need to go into detail about the plot, and the Blood Wiki link allows keen players to learn more, but it should and talk about character motivations a bit. Monolith did a great amount of work in fleshing out its story lines in my view, with the great presentation in Blood II and Shogo, and I am sad if Wikipedia is not going to do them justice. I may work on this, but as assistant moderator of the Blood Wiki I am busy. Comrade Graham (talk) 08:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Feel free. There is no part of me that thinks this is perfect. The project has a guidline of 700 words or less for plot summaries; if you can keep it under that, all will be well. As for the factual errors, I was basing it on the previous summary (since I'm a Blood series virgin), and that is what I understood it to say. If it's innacurate, I'm sorry. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 05:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have now worked out a version meeting rules (if only by the skin of its teeth), that is accurate, and explains the plot and character motivations. I need to do it for the expansion as well though (which I assume counts as its own section, although not a lot should be needed for a summary). I would just like to note that the Half-Life, a Blood II contemporary, article breaks the 700 word rule with 899. This article needs more work, mostly adding more sections so it is not just a plot summary. I might do more work. Also, if you ever do play the Blood series, have fun, they are great and truly underrated games. Also, apart from a few errors, you did a decent job writing the Blood II plot considering you never played it. Comrade Graham (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- I like it. The story is told well, and it has all the explanations that I don't remember the old version having ("old version" defined as the version before mine). Remember that the 700 word limit is a guidline; as such, it's negotiable. If you really feel like it needs more space, just provide a reasonable explanation here. (that does not include "this gam pwns all only n00bs dont lik it yeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!") I made a few alterations for grammar and punctuation, along with some other stuff. It could just be me, but I feel like parentheses detract from the encyclopedic feel; I used one only because I couldn't think of a better way to present an important note. Also, I made the Nightmare Levels into a subsection of the plot, since it is largely a plot summary. I won't push if you disagree; it would probably work better as its own section, though, if you can create some kind of "Expansions and Modifications" section.Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 06:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Okay good, I don't think I will need to negotiate anything, it is basically fine the way it is. It is a good summery for Wikipedia I think. I agree that I don't terribly like parenthesis, some of those are notable notes about the game (the train crash bits being a consistent running theme for one), however now that I know I can let the 700 word rule slide just an tiny bit, I might add notes about that through sentences. Thank you for being someone who points out Wikipedia rules with a bit of fairness, there are lots of people less kind. Comrade Graham (talk) 07:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
- Feel free. There is no part of me that thinks this is perfect. The project has a guidline of 700 words or less for plot summaries; if you can keep it under that, all will be well. As for the factual errors, I was basing it on the previous summary (since I'm a Blood series virgin), and that is what I understood it to say. If it's innacurate, I'm sorry. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 05:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Infobox
[edit]According to the Infobox's "Platform(s)" field, this game runs on "PC" and Windows. Does this game run under MS-DOS? I can't find a definitive answer. Some "old game" sites list it under "DOS games", but one review said it was developed for Windows.
If Blood II: The Chosen runs under MS-DOS, I suggest changing "PC" in the Infobox to "DOS". If it doesn't run under MS-DOS, "PC" should be removed from the Infobox.
ProResearcher (talk) 01:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)