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Market leader and other denominatives might sound like advertisement. please clean up this article with neutral and encyclopedic terms. thanks--Camilo Sanchez (talk) 22:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Estimado Señor Sanchez, in response to your above concern I reviewed the subject article for signs of advertising. Specifically, I looked at each occurance of typical promotional words such as "best", "first", "only", "leader", "leading", etc. When found, each use of these words I feel was appropriate for its contex. While the article could certainly use additional citations to provide objective references, as a whole I think the article reflects a company which does have a very prominant place in the history of American school busses and hence would be largely positive until the troubled period that started in the early 1990s. Note that Blue Bird is one of only three surviving large (Type C and Type D) school bus manufacturers in the US where once there were more than six. If you have specific concerns that should be addressed, please identify them here and restore the "advertising" cleanup tag, and I will be glad to look into them further. Thank you. Civilengtiger (talk) 03:43, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the section title as part of starting to re-write its content; the title I put in its place provides a better context. SteveCof00 (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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From what I'm starting to understand, large image galleries are not generally used often in articles such as these (lists notwithstanding). I want to seek feedback as to what to do with most of these; many of Blue Bird's products have dedicated articles of their own (as in, images can be moved there). Shrinking or deleting the gallery would save a great deal of space. SteveCof00 (talk) 09:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ownership question

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There's a bit of a confusion of what to put when it comes to who owns Blue Bird...long story short, is it Cerberus or is it Traxis? According to the Blue Bird website, the parent company is "The Traxis Group, B.V." which is listed in the infobox...the links on their website only link to the Traxis Financial Group, which is listed as part of of Cerberus' "portfolio"; the same is true with Blue Bird when looking at the Cerberus website. I also can't find any information on Blue Bird changing hands after Cerberus acquired them, aside from Blue Bird's website saying that it didn't happen. It seem confusing? That's why I'm posing the question here; maybe things can be cleared up and the correct information can make it into the article. --SteveCof00 (talk) 09:44, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I can tell, it looks like Traxis is the owner of Blue Bird, and Traxis is, in turn, at least partially owned by Cerberus. It's hard to tell whether Cerberus is the sole owner of Traxis or if they just own a piece of it. You're right: it's a bit confusing. My guess is that this is an arrangement similar to Starcraft being owned by Forest River, which is owned by Berkshire Hathaway. I realize that doesn't really answer your question, but I think we should probably keep Traxis listed as the owner, since that's what it says on Blue Bird's web site. In the meantime, we should continue to search for more info on the connection between Cerberus and Traxis, which hopefully will clarify things a bit. –BMRR (talk) 16:58, 1 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page re-write/expansion

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I've gone through and I've made a few additions due to recent article creation (the section about small buses...it might need some work) and am trying to simplify other parts where I can. I've cut down the free-standing image gallery (it's rather large) in size quite a bit as many of the removed images are either used other places or were moved into the article itself.

A couple of things may need to be addressed further:

  • The "ownership changes" section is still a bit hard to follow.
  • A piece of information: When did the company change its name to Blue Bird Corporation? That might be something to include.

Any other suggestions? --SteveCof00 (talk) 22:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's outside my expertise, and I don't feel that I would be the one to tackle it, but it might be interesting to have more details about historic operations in assembly plants outside the US, for example the Guatemala City plant and the plant(s) in Mexico. SrLoco (talk) 09:40, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting point; I feel that that perspective is something that could be expanded upon somewhat. The only thing holding it back is the lack of material out there that can be used as a referenced source, though. --SteveCof00 (talk) 11:07, 1 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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