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This article was nominated for deletion on 13 August 2012. The result of the discussion was keep.

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Fleming's Model

this section has a startling lack of justification for the hypotheses presented, and a stunning wealth of proper nouns. unless I'm misreading, it appears to have no justification for any of the described theories whatsoever. at the end of every sentence I found myself silently shouting "why?" at the top of my mental lungs. what the section does have is proper nouns. it abounds with names of scholars, languages, proposed groups that very few people without a serious grounding in linguistics or philology will be aware of, let alone able to read the section without first reading 25 others

Starostin's Model

this section is better and a good model for how the first could be better presented, but is still somewhat lacking in why said scholars think what they do.

Jäger

the article states that Jaeger uses a "computational phylogenetic analysis" to verify proposed super-families.

what kind of computational phylogenetic analysis? using what data and what parameters?

Conclusions

in my opinion, the article, especially the section on Fleming's Model, needs a big reworking. someone needs to drink the proper noun soup. I wish it could be me, but I do not have the grounding in linguistics to do it justice.

the article seems to very narrowly focused on laying out what the theories are without much regard for how those theories were come to, beyond a couple of lines about the comparative method, and a mysterious computer analysis. I'm aware these theories are a relatively new development in the linguistic landscape, but that's hardly an excuse to leave out their authors' presumably detailed justifications, or at the very least pointing to the lack of them (if that is the case). AndrewKkh (talk) 02:14, 24 June 2022 (UTC)AK[reply]

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hey folks , why there is a missing page ?!!!

In Starostin Model under Borean Grouping there is a Mcrofamily called Dene–Daic , The Letter's is the in blue Colour , so I tried to click on it to read further , but it's return me to the same page again , there is no Dene–Daic Article to be found ! , was the Page deleted by accident or what ? , Hope you guys fix that , thanks

BTW I'm not English native , pardon me if I made mistake in the Reply Above , Thanks , D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.186.248.43 (talk) 21:53, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, the page was not deleted, but "Dene–Daic" redirects here back to this article for the simple reason that no one has yet written an article about it. There is in fact little to say about it, since Starostin didn't have the opportunity to elaborate much on it due to his early death. –Austronesier (talk) 17:38, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

outside, inside

… encompasses almost all language families worldwide except those native to the Americas, Africa, Oceania, and the Andaman Islands.

Is this formula equivalent to

… encompasses all language families native to Eurasia

or have I forgotten something? —Tamfang (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]