Talk:Bullfighting

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Eating the bull[edit]

When I was in a village in Spain, the bull that was part of a "bloodless bullfight" at the village fiesta was butchered. Within a few hours it reappearred as some rather good stew. This was provided free to anyone in the town, as the bullfight was part of the (publicly funded) fiesta. (Anon.)

This is precisely what happens to the sacrificed bull in Greco-Roman cult. Wetman 21:32, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC) Well (aron) the bull is slaughtered and donated as charity in Mexico to the local orphanages and "soup kitchens" but in spain the bull is slaughtered and sold.

It's a pity that people can't put a gaur in to fight in place of the bull.


http://www.arkive.org/species/GES/mammals/Bos_frontalis/Bos_frontalis_00.html

If the gaur dies, then its meat will be ten times more delicious than normal bull's. But that would be impossible, all matadors may die within 10 secs, for it's too huge and fast.

When was bullfighting banned in the USA?[edit]

Bullfighting in the Spanish style was quite popular in the American West in the 19th century, but by the 1920s was illegal. The bloodless bullfights in California became legal within the last 20 years, as they largely occur in small towns which had continued to hold conventional, illegal bullfights long after bullfighting became illegal. The bloodless corrida was legalized as a way of preserving local traditions in the state's rural areas, if I remember correctly. Documentation would be welcomed.


Origins[edit]

Well, for one there is a sentence in it that doesn't make much sense. Secondly, no one is quite sure or even relatively sure what happened in crete. what we have are some tantalizing but unfortunately vague murals etc. Is it bull leaping? Or are the 'leapers' being gored, sacrificed the bull? Is it ritualistic? Are the paintings merely symbolic? Ok. Thirdly, with that note, I highly doubt you can trace bullfighting back to crete. Yes. They had something go on with bulls. But it is highly doubtful that there is even an indirect connection between the minoans and this sort of bullfighting. I mean, randomly, if I had to guess, I'd say that a connection to the venationes of Rome and its empire...

I added Matadors and edited Bandarilheiros[edit]

I added Matadors as they are still part of a Portuguese Style bullfight, although they are not always present.

I edited this and moved it below the "Matadors"

  • Bandarilheiros - Akin to the Spanish matadores (see above), but without the sword. These men simply play the bull with a red coat.

I re-wrote it to say that they are the Matadors and Cavaleiros helper. Which they are. Their sole purpose is to help the Matadors and Cavaleiros in the arena by moving, distracting, and placing the bull elsewhere in the arena so that the Cavaleiro or Matador can position themselves.

I would also note that they (Bandarilheiros) are not part of the "three main events" noted by someone. Whoever wrote that don't know what they were talking about.

Descabello[edit]

Does not the descabello pierce the cerebellum instead of the spinal cord? Isn't it akin to garrote (or garrote vil, I mean the non-suffocating variant)?

Andean festival[edit]

I miss a link to the Andes festival in which a captured condor (representing the Amerindians) is tied to a bull representing the conquistadors.

Children[edit]

From memory, there is an age limit to attending a corrida but either it is very low or is not enforced, because there may be children watching it. There should be a mention too of the television coverage of the corridas.

Capeas, tientas[edit]

I miss a mention of the capeas and tientas. Apparently it is a private social gathering of some significance.

Korean bull-fighting[edit]

In south Korea, the old tradition of bull vs. bull bull-fighting continues: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/20/us-korea-bullfight-idUSBRE83J0AU20120420, http://discoveringkorea.com/090407/the-cheongdo-bullfighting-festival-in-korea/,http://www.marimari.com/content/categories/editorial/archives/korean_bullfight.html

Introduction improvement or reworking[edit]

The introduction has too many paragraphs (four) and it is too long. The second paragraph seems to be dedicated to Spanish style bullfighting and it could be moved to its own section. The third paragraph could also be moved to its own section about fighting venues.

The second paragraph seems imprecise and confusing. It says "some forms are sometimes considered to be a blood sport". Which forms? The Spanish-style bullfighting is undoubtedly a blood sport and it should be clearly differentiated what forms are and what forms are not. It says that bullfighters are almost as popular as football players. How can you measure popularity? Maybe it would be enough if the article said that bullfighters are popular in Spain, or that they have some popularity. It also says "in some countries, for example Spain, it is defined as an art form or cultural event". Is there any country besides Spain that classifies bullfighting as a cultural form? What can be classified as a cultural form? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edits2019 (talkcontribs)