Talk:Catholic–Eastern Orthodox relations
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[edit]This is a notable subject for it is directly relevant to the faith of approximately 1.5 billion people worldwide (1.2 billion Catholics and 250 million Orthodox). Moreover, the Christian ecumenical effort is of great relevance in the modern world, as it attempts to unite Christian adherents. The Catholic and Orthodox churches relationship is of historical interest and can shed light on the contemporary religious landscape.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgeispower3 (talk • contribs)
Requested move 27 August 2019
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposition to this after it's been listed for quite some time. — Amakuru (talk) 11:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Roman Catholic–Eastern Orthodox relations → Catholic–Eastern Orthodox relations – Per WP:CONSISTENCY with Catholic–Lutheran dialogue, along with Ecclesiastical differences between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church and Theological differences between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church. WP:PRECISE: not limited to Latin Church. Cf. also Category:Catholic–Eastern Orthodox ecumenism, Category:Eastern Orthodox–Catholic sectarian violence. PPEMES (talk) 09:24, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support per WP:CONCISE and WP:CONSISTENCY. The main article is at Catholic Church, so "Catholic" is all that's needed in the title here. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:47, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
- Comment There have been a lot of RMs in the past on the issue of "Catholic" vs. "Roman Catholic" in titles. You can find some of them here. Here are a few of the more well-attended ones:
- Talk:Priesthood_in_the_Catholic_Church#Requested_move_14_October_2018 (no consensus)
- Talk:Catholic–Lutheran_dialogue#Requested_move_22_October_2017 (consensus against Catholic–Lutheran dialogue → Lutheran-Roman Catholic dialogue)
- Talk:Anglican–Roman_Catholic_dialogue#Requested_move_26_September_2017 (consensus for Anglican–Catholic dialogue → Anglican–Roman Catholic dialogue)
- Talk:Catholic_Church_and_homosexuality/Archive_6#Requested_move_25_May_2016 (no consensus for Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism → Homosexuality in the Catholic Church. A later RM succeeded, and a subsequent RM to revert the move found no consensus)
- The arguments on each side tend to be similar across articles (on the one hand, conciseness and consistency with Catholic Church, on the other hand, concerns about precision and pov). It seems like more often than not consensus has favoured just "Catholic", but an attempt to reify that pattern into policy failed to gain consensus. Just wanted to provide some context for those not familiar with the history of this issue (I was not until I did some research just now). Also, while it seems like plain "Catholic" is used in a clear majority of titles, you can find some more holdouts here. (e.g. List of Roman Catholic hymns, Mortification in Roman Catholic teaching). Colin M (talk) 00:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- The entries which remain unaffected as "Roman Catholic" in that list pertain to the Latin Church. The above request of this page, however, pertains to the Catholic Church as a whole. PPEMES (talk) 10:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure that that's true of all the entries. The examples that I mentioned (List of Roman Catholic hymns, Mortification in Roman Catholic teaching) seem to relate broadly to the Catholic Church, at least according to their introductions. I see you've actually already opened an RM to move the former. Colin M (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- They may be remaining entries of archaic spelling thus far, yes. PPEMES (talk) 19:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not sure that that's true of all the entries. The examples that I mentioned (List of Roman Catholic hymns, Mortification in Roman Catholic teaching) seem to relate broadly to the Catholic Church, at least according to their introductions. I see you've actually already opened an RM to move the former. Colin M (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- The entries which remain unaffected as "Roman Catholic" in that list pertain to the Latin Church. The above request of this page, however, pertains to the Catholic Church as a whole. PPEMES (talk) 10:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Possible Misuse of Source
[edit]Apologies if I should bring this up in a different way. but I am fairly new to editing Wikipedia. On the Recent Developments section of Contemporary Relations it reads "Support for Orthodox/Catholic unity was lowest among Orthodox in Romanian with 2% in support and highest among Russian Orthodox with 17% support." When I checked the linked source the table shows Romania at the highest at 62% and Russians at the lowest with 17%. Am I missing something in the source? The discrepancy is so large that I am feeling simply confused. Is the page just wrong and needs editing or is there something else going on? Pyromoron (talk) 02:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
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