Talk:Disappearance of Louise and Charmian Faulkner

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http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/mother-daughter-met-with-foul-play/2006/08/14/1155407742410.html, "Mother, daughter 'met with foul play'"

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Refs / links

These are some external links (removed from main article) which should be used as inline citations. Deiz talk 05:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21801505-421,00.html Woman buys murder plot to unearth family's killer (article)

http://latrobevalley.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?story_id=1034760&src=topstories Family won't rest until mystery is solved (article)

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22189609-661,00.html Gang widows carve up compo as 'victims'

http://www.portphillipleader.com.au/article/2007/08/14/20017_plv_news.html Still no answers after $70,000 search (article)

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22413580-662,00.html Suspect told to pay for body dig

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,19421967-661,00.html Pensioner denies link to missing mum (Herald Sun article)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/18/2192604.htm?site=melbourne Missing pair's death ruled 'foul play'

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23395804-2862,00.html Probe fails to solve mystery

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23395743-29277,00.html Missing mother, daughter murdered - coroner

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23399487-2862,00.html Plea for answer on mum and girl

http://latrobevalley.yourguide.com.au/news/local/general/search-for-louise-and-charmian-continues/1206963.html Search for Louise and Charmian continues

One more: Letter holds key to mystery disappearance of Louise Faulkner --Auric talk 11:12, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

POV and Original Research

I've tagged this article with a few question marks. It seems to be written in a very detailed narrative format, with a lot of the info presumably coming from people close to the case. It also places a lot of due emphasis on accusing a named person of a double murder, which I'm not too fussed about. Don't mistake me, I feel very sorry for the family of these victims, but this article seems very long and detailed for the relative notability of the case, and certainly not backed up by official sources. 123.2.104.74 (talk) 16:31, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Who is Charmian's father?

@Davidgoodheart: when you created the infobox, you listed Barry Clark. An IP disputes it, saying instead that it is George Sutherland. The closest the IP and I agree is that the Sydney Morning Herald ref says the mother says it's Sutherland. The ref also says that Sutherland was the mother's boyfriend and Clark is the father of Charmian's siblings. Per multiple refs, the family situation seems complicated (including infidelity and broken marriages), and none of those involved seem in a position to clarify it better. Are there any independent refs? Maybe the infobox shouldn't say anything if we don't have WP:RS? DMacks (talk) 05:54, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure what is the correct answer

If you are referring to the of the Disappearance of Louise and Charmian Faulkner if you want to change the info in the infobox it's fine with me if you feel that you know this for sure, small things like this do not bother me, its when I see articles that are deleted for no go reason is what really upsets me, which is what has been happening as of late. Davidgoodheart (talk) 06:17, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry all for changing the article without discussion here. It's better now I think but misses the whole story of continual efforts to prod the police, court hearings, a request that a reward be offered, etc. We don't know who the father is but it's not the same as her other daughters (one news article refers to Charmian as someone's stepsister, for instance). Doug Weller talk 12:54, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that the article does not mention a certain letter that has had a relevance in the case and was reported already back in 2007 by the Herald Sun: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/letter-points-finger/news-story/6700035701279d7570932a49fc193b3c

The Herald Sun seems to be deemed valid for use as it is listed among the sources used for the article.

Sincerely - Okama-San (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]