Talk:Donald Trump (Last Week Tonight with John Oliver)

The German word for Trump is Trumpf

I think it is als worth mentioning that trump is written in modern German as "Trumpf". So it is basically just a translation. Which has a long history in Americanizing immigrants. e.g. many Müllers changed their names to Miller. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.191.251.109 (talk) 17:10, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

name of page

The episodes creators, HBO, are showing a different "title" when they list the segment. They are now calling it "Drumpf the Donald" . So shouldn't we change the title to reflect the title given by the show? (That was the consensus achieved in naming process for this page). Otherwise the common name should be adopted, simply "Drumpf". Mascot of Donald Trump might be a good title, too.

"Here's what we did on our piece, if you didn't seen it. We were trying to seperate the kind of 'Mascot of Donal Trump' from the Man" - John Oliver

Thoughts? --Potguru (talk) 13:11, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

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I think the title should be left alone per video clip. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:48, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

The page is about the HBO video clip that is listed on YouTube. The clip was originally called Donald Trump, therefore this page will always be called that name. --Frmorrison (talk) 15:34, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

That makes no sense, it should use the WP:UCN for the segment, if the segment has been renamed (as is stated above), and it becomes/became more common, then the title of hte article hsould change -- 65.94.171.217 (talk) 04:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

"Drumpf"

Am i the only one who relaise that "Drumpf" is Germanophobia?

Something how Democrats, liberals, can call Trump a "racist" but they get away with this. 71.173.25.209 (talk) 15:26, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

This is addressed in the article section § Reception and aftermath where SI Rosenbaum's critique is quoted. -- ToE 13:49, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

"Subsequent Last Week Tonight segments"

How necessary is this section? This article is about a single segment, not John Oliver's coverage of Trump in general. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:38, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I have no idea. I think a quick overview of these episodes would be great, but if we want to go deeper into Oliver's episodes about Trump (which seem to be numerous), this should be moved into a new article about Donald Trump segments. epicgenius - (talk) 00:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Sure, or, there could be separate articles for those specific segments? Perhaps they don't have as much coverage as this segment to justify standalone articles. Wikipedia often has separate articles for individual episodes of television series, but this is a bit different. Maybe there are some SNL-related articles about characters or repeating sketches? If this article is going to be kept and expanded to include subsequent segments, then it will require a bit of an overhaul. Currently, the article mentions subsequent segments as an "aftermath" of the Drumpf segment. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:07, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Yeah, definitely, though such an article would probably have a similar name as this article. I was thinking Last Week Tonight parodies of Donald Trump, just like Saturday Night Live parodies of Donald Trump (which is substantially longer, since it started in 1998). epicgenius - (talk) 13:11, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Except the John Oliver segments are not parodies (or imitations). What about "Last Week Tonight segments about Donald Trump? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

@Another Believer: That's even better than my proposal. I'll make that article later if I have time. Unless you or someone else makes it first. epicgenius - (talk) 14:35, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: I was bold and created Last Week Tonight segments about Donald Trump. The new article may need work but at least this article "Donald Trump" has been returned to its original scope about a single segment. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:28, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Nice work. We may need to polish this up a bit, but now I guess we can bring this to Featured status. Although, with Trump as president-elect, getting this to TFA may get a lot harder. epicgenius (talk) 05:30, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't think politics would come into play at a FA review. :) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:28, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. ;) Except in real life, I don't know if Trump is going to see this. If he does, he's probably going to say something along the lines of "Wikipedia is rigged" or else sue Wikipedia. (Only kidding.) If it's TFA, that means that this episode will be on the front page of Wikipedia for a whole day, and since this is politically charged, we probably don't want Wikipedia to be accused of being anti-Trump. Or maybe John Oliver does want that... epicgenius (talk) 14:18, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating the article for featured status. Had hoped to co-nom, but I'm glad to see this moving forward either way, since I've working on several other projects at the moment, too. Thanks to all who have assisted along the way! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:23, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Possible addition?

As this is undergoing a Featured Article Review, I'd like to have some feedback on whether this hidden sentence belongs in the article. It is located at the last sentence of the "Make Donald Drumpf Again" section's first paragraph, and is sourced to The Boston Globe.

In a 2015 Boston Globe article about the impact of the "Drumpf" name, brand-naming expert Nancy Friedman explained, "That ‘pf’ combination is tough for English speakers and ‘dr’ doesn’t have the same effect on the ear as ‘tr’", resulting in a name that was "almost-comical in English".

epicgenius (talk) 04:30, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Re: Category:American political satire

Perhaps we should add Category:American political satire to Category:Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, then remove the category from this article? Seems "American political satire" applies to Last Week Tonight and all entries within the parent category. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:59, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I don't know about that. Some other episodes are not too political, like Tobacco or (to quote a recent example) Coal. epicgenius (talk) 01:35, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

But the show's Wikipedia article describes "Last Week Tonight" as an "American late-night talk and news satire television program", and Category:Last Week Tonight with John Oliver is already a subcategory of Category:Satirical television programmes. I don't feel too strongly either way, I was just trying to find a way to shift the categorization a little. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:37, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. The series is satirical, but just not exclusively political, so for that reason, I don't feel the need to make "American political satire" cover all Last Week Tonight episodes. epicgenius (talk) 02:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

No prob. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:27, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

source issue

"Other media also started reporting on Trump's "short fingers" shortly after the episode's broadcast,"

Two urls exactly the same, is this right?--Jarodalien (talk) 13:16, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

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