Talk:Duchy of Legnica

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No consensus, not moved. Courcelles 02:21, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Duchy of Legnica → Duchy of Liegnitz — according to WP:NCGN names should reflect cultural or political dominance. The duchy was never part of Poland (first independent, for most of the time part of Bohemia and Prussia and thus also part of the HRE), the local society was Germanized during the Ostsiedlung in the 13th and 14th century and predominantly German.--Karasek (talk) 15:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you offer proof that this name is more popular in English? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:23, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The burden of proof is on your side, since you started the article. Karasek (talk) 17:15, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The burden of proof is on Karasek´s side, according to WP:BURDEN. And the duchy as part of Bohemia was of course Slavic.--Yopie (talk) 19:25, 18 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Google books, restricted to English:

"Duchy of Liegnitz" 113 hits [1]

"Duchy of Legnica" 31 hits [2]

And: "In the 14th century Silesia was already a foreign world for Poland." [..] "In the late Middle Ages, it was therefore a territory of mutual influences of three nations: a country of Polish history and tradition, German language and German customs, but of Bohemian belonging." [[3]]

Summary: the "Duchy of Liegnitz" is the most popular English name, which also reflects the cultural and political dominance, which was German. And Yopies claim is wrong, since the Kingdom of Bohemia was a multiethnic country and not a Slavic one (German minority in Bohemia itself, German majority in Silesia, both Lusatias, Brandenburg). Later it was dominated by Austria. Karasek (talk) 10:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - virtually all the hits for "Liegnitz" are from 19th century sources. Most of the hits for "Legnica" are from modern sources. We use 20th century naming on Wikipedia, rather than engage in anachronisms (except on the article on anachronism of course).Volunteer Marek (talk) 08:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Proposed name is obsolescent and therefore less likely to be recognised by readers, see WP:AT. Andrewa (talk) 15:32, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Legnica de facto for few decades was a capital city for large part of Poland (during the reign of Henry the Bearded) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.8.185.102 (talk) 11:42, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]