Talk:Ein Gedi

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Could someone provide a map locating Ein Gedi? The Jade Knight 20:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Amazing place. I was there in 2000 (82.40.177.155 13:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)) it is the best place ever ,i go there twice a mounth ,it is a beuty when nature can mix both desert and water falls

Dunams? What are they? Are they really donums? How many?[edit]

It would be nice to have a link to a definition of a dunam. According to my dictionary (World Book, 1984), really they're donums. But my dictionary doesn't give an exact definition.

This article seems to say both that the Ein Gedi National Park is 14,000 dunams (in the first paragraph about the park) and that it's only 8 dunams (in the last paragraph about the park).

I wanted to know, because when it said that in 2005, a lit cigarette burned two-thirds of it, I wanted to know how much land that was.

Nice article, in other ways, though. Plus, nice pictures.

Entwhiz (talk) 20:48, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


Oh, I see the link, now. But it's only set up for the first mention of dunams (the 14,000 one). The other one (8) doesn't have that link set up, yet. When I have time, if it's still undone, I'll try to do it.

Entwhiz (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Masada/Sicarii[edit]

This article links to one on Masada in which it is mentioned that the Sicarii massacred inhabitants of Ein Gedi. (According to Josephus?) There appears to be no mention of this in the Ein Gedi article. If the Masada article is wrong, then it needs to be corrected. Otherwise, some discussion of this putative massacre needs to be made here in the Ein Gedi article.Lolliapaulina51 (talk) 01:04, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Second that. If there's no discussion of any massacre, there's no point to the link from Masada. I will add a Template Message citing the missing information and hopefully, there's someone out there able to add the missing information. Srwalden (talk) 06:59, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I came here to look up the same thing. Here's what Nachman Ben-Yehuda of Hebrew University says http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/masada.shtml . He wrote a book about this, and his book is a WP:RS. I tried to find the actual text in Josephus, but I couldn't.
"...they came down by night, without being discovered... and overran a small city called Engaddi: - in which expedition they prevented those citizens that could have stopped them, before they could arm themselves and fight them. They also dispersed them, and cast them out of the city. As for such that could not run away, being women and children, they slew of them above seven hundred" (p. 537).
He doesn't say what it's p. 537 of. --Nbauman (talk) 02:08, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Here it is.

The Project Gutenberg EBook of The Wars of the Jews or History of the Destruction of Jerusalem, by Flavius Josephus

BOOK IV.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2850/2850-h/2850-h.htm#link42HCH0007

CHAPTER 7.

How John Tyrannized Over The Rest; And What Mischiefs The Zealots Did At Masada. How Also Vespasian Took Gadara; And What Actions Were Performed By Placidus.

2. And now a fourth misfortune arose, in order to bring our nation to destruction. There was a fortress of very great strength not far from Jerusalem, which had been built by our ancient kings, both as a repository for their effects in the hazards of war, and for the preservation of their bodies at the same time. It was called Masada. Those that were called Sicarii had taken possession of it formerly, but at this time they overran the neighboring countries, aiming only to procure to themselves necessaries; for the fear they were then in prevented their further ravages. But when once they were informed that the Roman army lay still, and that the Jews were divided between sedition and tyranny, they boldly undertook greater matters; and at the feast of unleavened bread, which the Jews celebrate in memory of their deliverance from the Egyptian bondage, when they were sent back into the country of their forefathers, they came down by night, without being discovered by those that could have prevented them, and overran a certain small city called Engaddi:—in which expedition they prevented those citizens that could have stopped them, before they could arm themselves, and fight them. They also dispersed them, and cast them out of the city. As for such as could not run away, being women and children, they slew of them above seven hundred.

--Nbauman (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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