Talk:Elizabeth Barnard

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Page move?[edit]

Wow. Elizabeth Hall Nash Barnard is thorough, but as far as I'm aware she was never known as such. Lets move this to either Elizabeth Hall, Elizabeth Barnard, or Lady Barnard; and leave redirects for the other variants. As best I can tell she was best known as Lady Barnard and she was born Elizabeth Hall.

Without comment or objection ASAP, I'll move this to Elizabeth Barnard. --Xover (talk) 17:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Go ahead. That's actually the recommended way of doing it. Wrad (talk) 17:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, since page moves are a bit of a pain to undo, I figured I'd give everyone a chance to chime in on the best "primary" name to use for the article. If nobody yells wait I'll move it some time this weekend (probably not today; Real Life is interfering).--Xover (talk) 08:22, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Most people in the project don't even know this page exists. It's pretty new. Maybe leave a note at the project page. Wrad (talk) 16:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Moving the article to Elizabeth Barnard is a good idea. I changed the lead sentence already because the long concatenation of surnames seemed more like a joke than an actual name. Also, fixed a few spots that called her "Lady Elizabeth Barnard" rather than Elizabeth Barnard or Lady Barnard. Ariadne55 (talk) 16:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Tone[edit]

The tone is a little odd, almost whimsical at times, i.e. "for all of Judith's children" and "for she had not a single child". Rehevkor (talk) 16:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Burial[edit]

The last line of the main part of the article states: "It is surmised that she is buried in a tomb with her husband"; which one, her first husband or her widower? Nietzsche 2 (talk) 17:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Date of death[edit]

There seems to be doubt whether she died in 1669 or 1670.

According to "The Bernards of Abington", p67 http://www.archive.org/details/bernardsofabingt01higg:

Madame Elizabeth Bernard, wife of Sir John Bernard, Knt, was buried 17th February, 1669.

In the book, there is a whole chunk discussing this:

De Wilde [(De Wilde (G. J.), Rambles Roundabout, ' Abington.')]remarks : It is curious that this entry in the register is somewhat cramped and crowded upon a record of the burial of Thomas Hoe, labourer

it is the last in that year (the year then commenced on March 25th), and its appearance almost suggests that it is an interpolation between the burial of Thomas Hoe and the heading of the coming year, 'Anno Domini 1670' ; as if the keeper of the register had written the heading for that year, not expecting other burials. Of this last of the Shakespeares there is no other record. So far as is

known, no stone ever marked the place where she was buried.

Myrvin (talk) 20:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Good factual and true.