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This page belongs at Gabby Gabreski, not at Francis S. Gabreski. The convention is to use the name by which a person is best known, not their most formally correct name. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names). I am moving the page back. Isomorphic 04:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And again... same logic applies. Isomorphic 04:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of crash

Wasn't he brought down by his propeller striking the ground on the last strafing run....not ground fire? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.82.137 (talk • contribs) 18:35, 23 March 2007

I researched your claims as I wasn't certain, and it appears that you are correct. According to USAF sites such as [1] and [2] Gabreski's plane seems to have struck the ground which caused his plane to crash. Neither mentions his plane being struck with enemy fire. I have edited the WWII section to reflect more of what these sources stated. -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 19:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

decorations

Should he have the POW medal as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.32.164.125 (talk) 05:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good catch, retroactive. Editted to reflect.--Reedmalloy (talk) 15:26, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First pass before crash "unsuccessful"?

The article currently asserts that "Gabreski's first strafing run on an He 111 was unsuccessful." Would someone please validate that statement? Isn't it really that Gabreski disabled another German aircraft, perhaps a fighter aircraft, on the ground during his first pass? If so, the first pass would not be "unsuccessful." Nonetheless, his second pass was unsuccessful, when the German gunners were ready for him. Rammer (talk) 21:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I tweaked it a little. I agreed that the statement as written assumed facts not in evidence and adjusted it to account for his decision. By inference he was dissatisfied or he would not have made a second pass.--Reedmalloy (talk) 05:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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New source in german about crash 1944

please read this

https://www.luftkrieg-grossraum-koblenz.de/app/download/5809586538/20-07-1944_Francis+Stanley+Gabreski.pdf

about june, 20th 1944: - The attacked airfield was Niedermendig and not Bassenheim, as Gabreski believed - the german flak-gunner claimed he shot Gabreski down with his MG 15 - in the end the cause of his crash is uncertain. The source mentions further details from german viewpoint, please use a translator - my english is not good enough for editing the article directly.

--Olaf Pung (talk) 21:28, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Youtube video

There is a youtube video which may be of the run-up to the crash. Someone observed that the plane looked unusual and another person explained why. Its on youtube under the title MOST EXPLOSIVE GUNCAM FOOTAGE OF WW2 - EXPLOSIVE STRAFING RUNS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.182.53 (talk) 21:35, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]