Talk:Havdalah

Tuesday

I was a little unclear about the Tuesday thing. Chabad doesn't mention a late Havdalah on the two sites linked.

Isaac Klein in A Guide to Jewish Religious Practice, (Published by JTS, 1979) writes:

This ceremony should be performed immediately after the Ma'ariv service, though it may be delayed in cases of meregency even until Tuesday. When recited later than Saturday night, however, the spices and candle are omitted (Tur, O.H. 299; B. Shab. 150b in Rashi, s.v. ועבדינן)

Djbell 14:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

That's a shame, because these sources are conclusive and this is well known. Thankfully Chabad is not the final word on everything. JFW | T@lk 14:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

What is it anyway

The article describes what is done around havdalah, but it does not say what it is- is it a meal, an execution, or just a prayer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.53.14.228 (talk) 03:50, 17 May 2007

an article?

Havdalah (Hebrew: הַבְדָּלָה, "separation")

It looks to this dabbler as if the translation ought to be "the separation" (from a verb bdl?). —Tamfang (talk) 22:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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Aramaic for spices

Hi @Ogress, is your source specifically about havdalah? I can only find Hebrew בשמים in texts about the havdalah ritual. I see a few versions of the word in other Aramaic texts but I don't think we should mention an Aramaic variant at all unless it's directly relevant. GordonGlottal (talk) 17:26, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

It appears in the babylonian talmud and in Targum Ester: Shabbat 69b:6: Jewish Babylonian Aramaic: וְהָהוּא יוֹמָא בְּמַאי מִינְּכַר לֵיהּ? בְּקִידּוּשָׁא וְאַבְדָּלְתָּא., romanized: It is distinguishable by means of the kiddush and the havdala that he recites on that day.. Is there any reason we shouldn't indicate it appears given that it's in the Bavli? This is an honest question, not a rhetorical or sarcastic one. It also is listed in Sokoloff and thus CAL, which are somewhat selective in their inclusion of words. Ogress 14:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

@Ogress Sorry I wasn't clear. I was asking specifically about בסמני, I think אבדלתא is fine. GordonGlottal (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2024 (UTC)