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Hi, @Piotrus:! I found an English-language reference work that had an entry about this company from 1977. There should be reliable sources in Japanese talking about this company as well, and if need be I can ask at the ja:Wikipedia:Chatsubo about this. Thanks! WhisperToMe (talk) 12:16, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@WhisperToMe: It would be good to add a source that is more than a press release, trivial coverage (as defined in WP:NORG) or mention in passing. So far the sources verify this company existed, but WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES. So yes, more sources would be good, but pretty please, mentions in passing don't count - we need in-depth, independent coverage. I.e. someone else than the company itself saying 'we are important', or some reprint of their business as usual press release. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:23, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: The coverage in the cited source seems to be a paragraph or more, which does not seem to be "passing" to me - passing means incidentally mentioning the company's name without specifying real detail about it. Writing in detail about the company for over a paragraph is sufficient detail. However I am not sure about the whole basis of the source - it seems to be a record of updates regarding particular publishing companies, but I wish google books would give a bigger view of the content so I can see what contexts they were brought up in, or why they were chosen, so I can confirm it's not a simple random "directory". The work itself is titled Book Publishing Worldwide: Special Reports on Germany, Scandinavia, Portugal, Spain, Australia, Soviet Union, Great Britain, Japan, and Export-import Statistics so to me it sounds like the profiles were not a simple directory but specially-chosen developments in the publishing industries of those countries. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I made a request at Wikipedia:RX so I can get the introductory pages of the book so I know how/why they chose their entries - this confirms whether or not it is a simple "directory" or whether it chose its entries for a purpose (the latter of course supports notability). Also I posted at ja:Wikipedia:Chatsubo a request for secondary sources in Japanese. As Holp Shuppan has been around since at least the 1970s it would be unfathomable for there not to be any secondary sources in Japanese that fit our criteria. WhisperToMe (talk) 13:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]