Talk:Independent station

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On 3 May 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Independent station (North America) to Independent station. The result of the discussion was moved.

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I think there should be criteria as to what stations are included on that list of notable indies...I am thinking of using the following list:

1) must have been an independent for at least five years, or 2) must have achieved notable success if less than five years.

What do you think? Gatorman 21:35, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article name "independent station" is too broad to concentrate discussion upon the North American classification of terrestrial television. Say, there are independent radio stations. My proposals are:

1. Evacuate Independent station for radio.

2. Take over independent television from the ITV (UK) redirection with "anotheruse".

3. In independent television discuss the definitions of the "independent television" in each country.

4. Develop sections or articles like "independent television in North America", where you are allowed to use the regional definitions.

Soredewa 13:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Utterly pointless. An independent television station is unusual as most local stations would be better off economically if backed by a network as a source of programming. 100% reliance on syndication leaves much to be desired. An independent radio station, by contrast, is much easier to create - one could just spin records all day to program a radio station without being at any severe competitive disadvantage in a local market. --66.102.80.212 (talk) 03:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Though this is over 6 years old, I'll respond. If a market is sparse in population, or, conversely, very large in population, independent TV stations make sense. In sparse areas, if a TV station can't attain affiliation with a major network, they have no choice but go it alone. In very large metropolitan areas, where the major networks already have affiliates and can't, as per the FFC, attain new ones in the same market, the independent channel makes a go of it by providing alternate programming. Oftentimes, such programming is ethnic in origin, appealing to immigrant groups in these markets. 98.221.141.21 (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at the listing, and I don't see any listings for independent stations in Maine for the Bangor or the Portland markets...can someone fix that?

Sponge1987 13:19, 21 May 2020

Requested move 3 May 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SkyWarrior 14:03, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Independent station (North America) → Independent station – This article has 14 times the incoming links (5,546 vs. 382), nine times the 30-day pageviews (3,192 vs. 352), and 3.8 times the since-2015 pageviews (273,657 vs. 71,474) of Independent station. It is time to move it there and have it be the surviving page of the "merger", though it needs work.

It is going to be a television-focused article, though of course independent stations also existed and were more salient in radio when radio networks mattered. It is going to be a North America-centric article (though there will be a Japan section), because it is in especially the US and Canada where independents were a specific class of station that once had their own national trade association. However, the obvious primary topic existing at a parenthetical is counterintuitive. It's time to fix this.

This should be implemented as a page swap and subsequent redirect so that this page's history lives at the undisambiguated title. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:31, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Television has been notified of this discussion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:32, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Proposal seems reasonable. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 12:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.