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Sales pitch?[edit]

This certainly isn't an encyclopaedic article, it's a sales pitch! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ThunderPeel2001 (talkcontribs) 20:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


Eve[edit]

Shouldn't we include his involvement in designing the Pixar character "Eve" from the movie "wall-E"? Here is a link: [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.136.32.222 (talk) 14:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh Duh?[edit]

Don't you think a picture should be added for such a renowned guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.bombo (talkcontribs) 07:45, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

  • What, so just in case his million pound salary, CBE and job with Apple designing the coolest tech gear on the market weren't enough we have to look at his impossibly good looks as well? So not fair!--Simonmetcalf (talk) 12:50, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Recognition[edit]

I think these news should be covered:

Akaabc 05:55, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

1992-1998?[edit]

What did he do at Apple in the 6 years before the iMac? —pfahlstrom 06:02, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I rounded up his design patents between 1992-1998 here: http://theintelligentcrowd.com/kmblog/patents/jonathan-ives-earlier-work/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.7.43.66 (talk) 18:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

NPOV?[edit]

The first two paragraphs of the article don't seem to be NPOV, in my opinion. It reads like a press-release.--71.144.86.246 02:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Newton Messagepad[edit]

One of Ive's earlier projects was working on the design of the Newton MessagePad 100 (the original). Mentioned in BusinessWeek Who is Jonathan Ives?: "He designed the first PDA to run Apple's short-lived Newton software." --Bratling 16:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Recognition (again)[edit]


The CBE he was awarded is mentioned twice in the "Recognition" section. The second time it is mentioned, it says:
"Ive was also listed in the 2006 New Years Honours list, receiving a CBE, for services to the design industry."
Is that also as in:
... as well as the CBE we have already read about?



I think Ive is a dude, but I don't think it twice.
Anyway, you get my drift.

Ive also worked on the iMac G4..[edit]

How could anyone forget that it was Ive who came up with the amazing iMac G4 design with the built-in counter-balanced floating screen design? I remember his part in envisioning the design was explicitly mentioned in the announcement video when the product was introduced. It was probably the most interesting design for a computer ever produced.. much more striking than the minimalist iMac G5 (iPod-like) that followed it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Matt Carrell (talkcontribs) 06:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC).

Personal involvement[edit]

This article makes the perrenial mistake of creditting all the designs to Ive personally, rather than to his team. Apple have never been particularly clear about how much Ive actually does himself, so it's impossible to know either way. I think the article should credit "The team led by Ive" (or whatever) unless there's a reliable source that explicitly says it was him that came up with the idea. I'm going to start on those changes now. --82.45.163.4 14:23, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Apple Press Info quite clearly state he is the leading designer and conceptual mind behind Apple products.81.104.9.110 (talk) 15:01, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
If you check Ive's patents you can quite clearly see he is THE designer, even 200 of the 313 patents of Steve Jobs' name Ive as dual patent holder. More than 200 of the patents attributed to Jobs also list Apple design guru Jonathan Ive, indicating the close collaboration between the two in creating the vision for Apple's products.Twobells (talk) 10:49, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

MacBook?[edit]

Er, everyone knows Sony designed the MacBook after Apple proved they can't design a decent toilet seat - sorry, laptop - themselves, so why is Ive and his team credited with it? -- 86.17.211.191 00:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

  • Because no one knows what you're talking about. (Sony did design Apple's first (sub)notebook, the PowerBook 100, sold in 1991...) — RVJ (talk) 22:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Revolutionary?[edit]

The G3 was hardly revolutionary, despite what Apple marketing may think. The transistor was revolutionary, putting the computer in the same case as the screen isn't.

There's clearly bias in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kestasjk (talkcontribs) 12:36, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Agreed. This article is just a little too positive and reads more like a fan page than an encyclopaedic entry.--Simonmetcalf (talk) 12:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
For that matter, most of the comments on this Talk page make me want to gag. You'd think this guy was Raymond Loewy reborn... As nearly as I can tell, Apple products are designed to look maimed the first time they get a scratch, encouraging continuous "upgrading" by folks attracted to that sleek starkness that goes to hell the first time it's knocked over or dropped. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.3.249 (talk) 15:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
I bet you morons one day ago still believed Steve Jerk Jobs did all the design of Apple products, and now are angry to discover Ive is behind everything. Idiot fanboys! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.17.116.121 (talk) 20:15, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Design motifs[edit]

While I think that the section on design motifs is well written and informative, does it really belong in an article on Ive? Ianbetteridge (talk) 21:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

No, this article can be renamed to Apple design motifs. Personal information on Ive should be moved out to a separate article. Jay (talk) 13:16, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
The article has transformed a lot now. It can retain as a biography, only the technical section need to be moved out. Jay (talk) 02:51, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I believe the design motifs should be in a new article as Jay suggests, adding a link in the Ive biographical article. Although Ive is Vice President of Industrial Design, this info is more relevant in a new article about the whole evolution of design at Apple. Plus I think there is enough info available for making a whole article about it, or at least adding it to the Apple Industrial Design Group article. --Lithium2177 (talk) 02:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I did it, feel free to make any changes as you see fit. Apple Design Motifs Ianprime0509 Talk 01:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Home[edit]

The Guardian article states that he lives in Twin Peaks. If correct, this is in San Francisco, not "near" San Francisco. Anyone who can confirm this? Gglockner (talk) 17:30, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Biography[edit]

english users: there are 2 printed biography outlines about J.I.:

  1. Current Biography Yearbook 2006 / Clifford Thompson // Jonathan Ive, Head of the design team at Apple Computer Inc / Kim, David J. / New York: H.W. Wilson Co., 2006 / ISBN 978-0-8242-1074-8[1]
  2. Jonathan Ive designer of the iPod / Kris Hirschmann / Detroit : KidHaven Press, 2007 / ISBN 0737735333 [2]
  1. ^ H.W. Wilson (en) Retrieved 24.11.2009
  2. ^ USA Congress Library Online Catalogue (en) Retrieved 25.11.2009

you should add this information using en-wiki rules. perhaps, you may find out some new refs in uk-interwiki reflist --Cosmofuture (talk) 11:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

POV in Criticism and Praise[edit]

The section "Criticism and Praise" contains all praise and no criticism. I have flagged it POV. cookiecaper (talk / contribs) 04:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Add some criticism. Simple lack of criticism does not indicate NPOV, it indicates an opportunity for YOU to add to the article. 76.22.114.97 (talk) 08:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Astonishing[edit]

Unbelievably there seems to be no mention of Ive anywhere in the Iphone, Ipad, IMac or Apple wiki articles. How can the designer of the products that turned Apple into the company it is today have not a single entry on those pages??? Twobells (talk)

updated all the articles that Ive designed.Twobells (talk) 10:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Photo[edit]

A photo of Jonathan Ive is available at apple.com PR section: http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/jonathan-ive.html

Though it is not in the public domain, it is intended for press use and hence should fit quite nicely in Wikipedia. Can someone authorized please add this? Davisjohn (talk) 17:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:R._Baley/Free_photo_essay Darrell_Greenwood (talk) 20:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
done Twobells (talk) 08:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Improving this article[edit]

My plan in reconstructing this page is to further define who Jon Ive is. I would like to go in depth more on the topics already contributed to this page such as his early life & family, career, praise, awards & nominations, etc. I found some articles and information concerning life when he was young which would be a great insight to have on here. I would also like to post some things about his works for apple and anything else related to his career with a broader outlook. I'd like to focus a lot on things he has designed. I most definitely want to get into his work with Steve Jobbs considering his recent death and how both of them worked together to accomplish the many things apple has done within the recent years and so on. I found a few sources concerning Jon Ives involvement in Steve Jobb's memorial and words he has spoken about the unfortunate incident. I think it may be crucial to add various links with articles & interviews on him for anyone that looks at this page as well. Along with that I'd like to add certain video links that may interest the viewer of this page. If I can find anything on his future intentions, I'd love to add information on that too. Also, I want to brush up on how he's gotten to where he is today and he events that lead to that. Being that he is fairly young and is one of the most crucial people working for apple, I think it's important to focus on. As my research develops on Ive's I'm certain I will be adding more aspects on him but depending on where my research takes me, we'll see where that goes.

Aking174 (talk) 14:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Good for you, any help you need ask away.Twobells (talk) 15:30, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Salary listed in Pounds?[edit]

Why is his salary listed in Pounds? He lives in the US, works for an American company and is paid in US Dollars.108.23.147.17 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC).

Because most Americans don't seem to be interested at all in the man who actually designed the products Apple sell and made it the company it is today.Twobells (talk) 15:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)--2.220.254.213 (talk) 18:33, 6 September 2012 (UTC)Italic text'≥Bold text
That's a poor reason, and not backed up by guidelines. Although British, he clearly works in the United States for a US company and I and sure that Apple pays his salary in American dollars..JOJ Hutton 18:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Knighthood[edit]

The BBC News source currently in use confirms that he has been knighted and is therefore styled as Sir Jonathan Ive. He is still a British citizen as far as I know so he is entitled to use 'Sir'. Also the source indicates the title is effective immediately so there's no need to wait for the actual knighting to take place to update the article. --109.155.74.208 (talk) 00:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I concur. His title should now be Sir Jonathan Ive KBE CBE. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 11:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
The KBE supersedes the CBE so the CBE is now dropped from his title. --86.145.6.26 (talk) 12:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Actually I believe the KBE is not used alongside Sir. You become Sir Bill Bloggs if a British or Commonwealth citizen or Bill Bloggs KBE if the knighthood is honorary. Jonathan Ive would be Sir Jonathan Ive not Sir Jonathan Ive KBE. The CBE is a seperate honour and remains in place so his formal styling should be Sir Jonathan Ive CBE. Sue De Nimes (talk) 13:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

This is the case when someone is made a Knight Bachelor but as Jonathan Ive has been made a knight in an 'order of chivalry' he gets a post nominal designation. 80.176.88.21 (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Walter Isaacson[edit]

The Isaacson biography of Jobs contains a good deal of information about Ive. I'll add it to the bibliography here. --Christofurio (talk) 14:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

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