Talk:Joseph Goebbels

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Good article Joseph Goebbels has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Missing an obvious point[edit]

This is a very good article but it's missing what I would have thought was a fairly obvious point: why is his last name spelled as "Goebbels" instead of as "Göbbels". I realized it is universally spelled without the umlaut, but shouldn't there be some explanation why? How is his name spelled on his birth certificate? Shouldn't there be an explanation of this (presumably in a footnote) when his name is presented in the first sentence? __209.179.86.123 (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

The sources we used to prepare the article don't cover this point. The German wiki also uses "Goebbels" without any comment on the spelling. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
It is quite common for German names to be spelled in full without umlaut. Goethe and Emmy Noether spring to mind. There is no "why", any more than for any other point of custom. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:02, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Goebbels's term as Reich Chancellor of Germany[edit]

According to Hitler's last will signed on 29 April at 04:00, shouldn't Goebbel's term as Reich Chancellor of Germany begin on April 29th instead of April 30th? Or was Hitler's last will only to be executed upon Hitler's death the next day? Nassov (talk) 16:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

The Will went into effect on 30 April upon Hitler's death. Kierzek (talk) 17:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Removal of quotations[edit]

I have twice removed some quotations from the article. My reason is because we don't build our articles using primary sources such as the subject's diaries. These particular quotations are not very enlightening and don't add anything useful to the article, in my opinion. Discussion welcome. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:59, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

They do not add anything substantive to the article and are trivial in nature. They should stay out. Kierzek (talk) 14:18, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Star of David[edit]

I have added this image because it is a visual reminder of the introduction of the Star of David by Goebbels to mark Jews, yet another humiliation for the Jews. 86.188.77.110 (talk) 14:35, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

That is already mentioned in the article; along with harsher measures/"treatment" he advocated, including the Holocaust. Kierzek (talk) 16:30, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
It is mentioned but not illustrated> You have missed the point entirely. 86.188.77.110 (talk) 17:37, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
I am again removing photo of Konrad Henlein as being off-topic for this article. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
I agree with the removal; off-topic and trivial.Kierzek (talk) 22:15, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
The Star of David is ok to include in my opinion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:33, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Religion in the infobox[edit]

This comment is regarding the following revert:[1]

There have been several RfCs on religion in the infobox:

15 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

This RfC had a clear consensus for removing the religion parameter from the infobox for individuals (living, deceased, and fictional), groups, schools, institutions, and political parties that have no religion, but that RfC was determined by the closing administrator to not apply to nations.

17 June 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations.

This RfC had a clear consensus for removing the religion parameter for countries, nations, states, regions, etc., all of which were determined to not have religions.

31 December 2015 RfC: RfC: Religion in infoboxes.

This RfC was a response to certain individuals insisting that the previous RfCs did not apply to their favorite pages (schools, political parties, sports teams, computer operating systems, organized crime gangs...) and had a clear consensus that in all all infoboxes in all Wikipedia articles, without exception, nonreligions should not be listed in the "Religion=" parameter of the infobox.

11 April 2016 RfC: RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes.

In this RfC, there was a clear consensus to remove the "religion=" and "denomination=" parameters from all infoboxes, not just the ones that call atheism/agnosticism a religion.

There have been four RfCs on this, and all four showed the same overwhelming consensus. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)