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Ex-wife[edit]

Why is there a recent editing controversy about the name of Run's first wife? Is it Annie King or Valarie Vaughn? Is it one person with two names? All I've found in a cursory google search are articles which quote this article. I don't know anything about it.

Maybe more importantly, why is anyone just changing it back and forth without any explanation?

Smuckola (talk) 19:39, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Expansion[edit]

Does anyone else feel this wiki needs to be expanded? The other members of Run-DMC seem to have much more comprehensive articles. Is it due to a lack of information? I'm not a giant Run-DMC fan but this seems rather lacking, if there is any fans out there with good citations, please weigh in

Tunafizzle (talk) 03:38, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Reverand[edit]

is joseph simmons or reverand run really a reverand?

yes he is

He is, in fact, a reverend. A good expansion of this article should cover how he came to be ordained, which church ordained him, and his ministry as well the source of the nickname "Run". I don't have the info or I would do it myself. 70.63.94.191 (talk) 01:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Has he always been a reverend? Or was this after the commercial success a la Mason Betha (Ma$e). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ummel (talkcontribs) 19:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Son's age[edit]

Joseph Simmons II (Jojo)was born on Friday, September 29, 1989. In the article, I still saw that he was 16 years old even after he turned 17.

Yes, the article originally said that Jojo was born in 1990, which is incorrect. Jojo is really born in 1989 and once I have corrected the article, it has been reverted again to 1990, which is wrong. NHRHS2010 Talk 23:30, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
It's not necessary to type in all-caps in the edit summary. If you have a cite that says his birthdate is in 1989, feel free to change it, per WP:RS. Ckessler 02:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


But did yall know he have a son name Trevor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.211.219.250 (talk) 13:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete sentence[edit]

At the very end of the article, it stated, "She was rumored to have had complications due to either a case of". Until someone can add an ending to this sentence, I have deleted it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Melissa Dilo (talkcontribs) 03:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC).


Picture[edit]

is that really a picture of him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.244.47.83 (talk) 00:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

  • The old one wasn't; I uploaded the wrong photo - but the one on there now is. --David Shankbone 04:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Middle Name: Ward or Lloyd?[edit]

Rev Run's middle name is given here as Ward. Some other sites also do: Discogs, which cites three albums as sources.

Elsewhere, his middle name is given as LLoyd: BuddyTV, BookRags, ChaCha.

You would think that the biography on MTV, which hosts his reality TV show, would resolve it, but it simply states that he was "born Joseph Simmons." Nor does the induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame[1] shed any light.

His personal blog, RUN'S WEB[2], doesn't seem to contain any information on this.

Perhaps his little autobiography It's Like That: A Spiritual Memoir would resolve it, but I have not read it. Its publisher[3], which refers to him as Reverend Run, offers no information.

  1. ^ http://www.rockhall.com/inductee/run-dmc/
  2. ^ http://www.revrun.com/
  3. ^ http://us.macmillan.com/itslikethat

MidwestGeek (talk) 22:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

In the song "Rock Box" by Run-D.M.C., he says the line: "My name is Joseph Simmons, but my middle name's Lloyd." You can clearly hear the L sound, although admittedly either of the two options could fit. Nonetheless, I've seen his middle name listed as "Lloyd" on several websites. And realistically, who would give their child the middle name "Ward"? Just a thought.

Edit: Sorry, forgot to sign this. 71.124.180.208 (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

It's actually "Lord" that he says, he's just rap-bragging —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.43.144.160 (talk) 17:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

A puzzling article[edit]

Why does this article seem to focus almost entirely on his work in the 2000s? Surely there ought to be a discussion of Run-D.M.C.'s work in the 80s, right? john k (talk) 15:14, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Joseph Simmons/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

I can't quite justify giving this a "Start" rating. Although it is better written than some of the articles you would consider stubs, its lack of an infobox and its lack of proper structure (not to mention the random information which probably belongs on another page) gets a "stub" rating. --Thereen 01:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Last edited at 01:12, 28 November 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 20:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 5 June 2016[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. -- Tavix (talk) 21:54, 20 June 2016 (UTC)



Joseph Simmons? – From less-common real name to more-common stage name "Reverend Run" or "Rev Run", for this member of the rap group Run-D.M.C. Closeapple (talk) 03:54, 5 June 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. Music1201 talk 01:24, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

  • Support per my own nomination: Prefer "Reverend Run" but maybe "Rev Run" works. This article was created in 2004, when the subject's most common name was just "Run" and, if I recall, Wikipedia generally avoided ambiguous titles even more than today, by using any other available name first, and parentheses only if no other option existed. Since then, the name "Reverend Run" has become common enough that it passes WP:COMMONNAME, particularly as being the most common unambigious title: I think it's more easily recognizable, and more likely the more searched-for term, for this person, compared to the current title "Joseph Simmons", which is probably far less common than "Run" or "Reverend Run". (And WP:STAGENAME+unambiguous name seems more important than WP:TITLESINTITLES in this case.) On the subject of abbreviating the "Reverend": He released his solo album Distortion as "Rev Run". The official Run-D.M.C. website's biography page for him at http://www.rundmc.com/run/ uses all four names "Joseph Simmons" (also in header), "Reverend Run" (also in header), "Rev Run", and "Run" (in title image) interchangeably (and once even "rev Run"); other pages on the website sometimes use "Rev. Run" also. Maybe someone who has seen the series Run's House can comment on whether he and his family say the name as "Reverend Run" or really pronounce it as two-syllable "Rev Run". --Closeapple (talk) 03:54, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Reject: This proposal is stated as if it's an extraordinarily and needlessly convoluted solution in search of a problem, all the way down a weird rabbit hole. Except it also isn't a solution, but just an open-ended mess, where we're already presently clean. And the article can be found just fine. — Smuckola(talk) 04:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.