Talk:Karl Rahner

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"Death and resurrection"[edit]

No citation is given for the second clause of this sentence: "Rahner states that the death and the resurrection of Jesus are two aspects of a single event not to be separated,[56] even though the resurrection is not a historical event in time and place like the death of Jesus."

That claim sounds a lot like Ratszinger: "The Resurrection cannot be an historical event in the same sense as the Crucifixion is..." https://banneroftruth.org/us/resources/articles/2010/does-the-pope-believe-in-the-resurrection/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.13.64.199 (talk) 22:46, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]


"Borrowing the language of Kant"[edit]

Transcendental arguments aren't specific to Kant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.125.140.3 (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

“Not understandable”[edit]

I have added the template

at the top of the article, because of the following sentence, to be found in the last-but-third paragraph.

“The presence of God's self-gift, guaranteed as persistent and infallible in the Christ-event, and only prevented from the errors of depraved and idolatrous interpretations by this event, is the center-point of the doctrine of grace.”

With the present wording, the sentence is entirely obscure.

Miguel de Servet 13:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the sentence quoted above is obscure, but it appears to have been altered in the article. Someone should remove the "incoherent" template -- C. Mac Kirnan,18 Feb 2007

C. Mac Kirnan, what does the phrase "it appears to have been altered in the article" mean? Nobody is going to remove anything until the obscurity of the sentence in the article has been clarified. Miguel de Servet 12:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rahner's language can be very difficult for those who have not spent a lot of time reading his work. It seems that this article would benefit either from some explanation on the terms quoted from Rahner for those readers who may not be familiar with his work.67.184.64.100 02:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 04:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most influental Roman Catholic theologians[edit]

In Alister McGrath's Christian theology: An Introduction stays that, ptobably, two most influental Roman Catholic theologians of 20th century are Karl Rahner and Hans Urs von Balthasar. Is there some reference where write that Bernard Lonergan is one of the most influental Roman Catholic theologians of 20th century?--Vojvodae please be free to write :) 09:02, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Habilitationschrift[edit]

Currently, the entry implies that Rahner's E latere Christi (1936) served as his Habilitationschrift. Note 6 on "Habilitationschrift" reads:

A second dissertation qualifying one to teach at university level. The English title of this dissertation was "From the side of Christ: The origin of the church as second Eve from the side of Christ the second Adam. An examination of the typological meaning of John 19:34".

From what I understand, this cannot be the case. Spirit in the World, as the entry notes, was rejected by M. Honecker at Freiburg, so E latere Christi ("From the side of Christ") was Rahner's first rather than second dissertation.

Now, precisely what qualified as Rahner's Habilitationschrift is a bit of a puzzle to me.

The Vorgrimler (1986) piece which the article cites says this: "According to the laws which used to apply throughout Austria [qualifying to teach] was not difficult if one had already published academic studies. So the five articles on the spiritual theology of Origen, Evagrius Ponticus and Bonaventure, which had been published between 1932 and 1934, were enough. On 1 July 1937 he completed the postdoctoral work (Habilitation) required for university teaching" (p. 63).

On the other hand, the (semi-official) Rahner bibliography (http://www.ub.uni-freiburg.de/fileadmin/ub/referate/04/rahner/rahnersc.pdf, last updated 20 Dec 2012 at my time of writing) lists one particular article as the Habilitationschrift accepted by Innsbruck in 1936, namely, BR 0019 "Sünde als Gnadenverlust in der frühkirchlichen Literatur.” Zeitschrift für katholische Theologie 60 (1936), pp. 471-510.

Regardless of what precisely stands as Rahner's Habilitationschrift, the current entry is false and needs to be corrected. Bpeters1 (talk) 02:43, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File nominated for deletion on commons[edit]

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Message automatically deposited by a robot on 08:56, 2 January 2018 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harideepan (talkcontribs)

The sections “Anonymous Christianity” and “Non-Christian religions” should be merged[edit]

My thanks to the writer/s who have put together such a full article; I've printed off the whole thing to study Rahner. However, I suggest that the sections “Anonymous Christianity” and “Non-Christian religions” should be merged under one heading. The latter refers to anonymous Christians and the sections share the same core basis.

Someone who is invested in Rahner’s thought would have to check the chronology of citations from Rahner’s works re the Council’s declaration and redo the footnotes.

The unified article would probably be best placed at the end, since the thrust depends on everything written before.

Offered with my appreciation and best wishes. Bookman1968 (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Making them adjacent might be better - the first is used in the second but does not encompass it-----Snowded TALK 10:16, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to try to do this as a start. Bookman1968 (talk) 17:34, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Heidegger and existentialism[edit]

The seventeenth line of the section entitled "Biography" refers to the "existentialism of Heidegger". While it is true that Rahner was influenced by Martin Heidegger, Heidegger denied he was an existentialist, because he said his work on Human Being was only part of his work on Being in general. Rollo August (talk) 16:42, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Heidegger is associated with existentialism according to the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. --Omnipaedista (talk) 06:20, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Karl Rahner and Luise Rinser[edit]

Is there a reason why there is no mention in the article about the letters of KR and Luise Rinser, but only a link at the end? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.37.150.207 (talk) 11:48, 31 December 2021 (UTC) --114.37.150.207 (talk) 11:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]