Talk:Les Miles

profile photo change?

Should we go ahead and update Les's photo to one of his more recent pics in KU colors? I get that he had his successful period at LSU, but he is KU's head coach right now and it is maybe a bit disrespectful to them if we don't update it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:E231:3340:44DB:F73A:E726:2E9F (talk) 18:16, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Untitled

Record should be 131-50 (according the link cited and math) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verouchi (talk • contribs) 14:19, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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The Times-Picayune article I cited stated that "lsu and michigan officials said....". They then provided a quote from a Michigan official. At least one person at Michigan apparently felt they should quickly correct the rumor. Unfortunately the article was updated and the reporter apparently felt that what LSU and Miles were stating made the Michigan official's statement irrelevant, i.e. not worth mentioning, much less discussing. Mdlawmba 07:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I edited out the false claim that Michigan officials had confirmed that Les would stay at LSU. Michigan officials haven't said anything, and none of the cited sources even pretend they do. The Michigan newspapers cited are just reporting on what Les and LSU said, not what Michigan said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.210.12 (talk) 03:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Why is Les Miles in Project Texas? Michigan, Ohio, Oklahoma, Louisiana I can understand, but Texas? Mdlawmba (talk) 04:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

grass eating

I don't understand why my sourced information about his enjoyment of eating grass and his nickname "the mad hatter" keeps getting deleted. So lets discuss it here for the sake of consensus. It is a well known and publicized fact. Sources have been provided and numerous sources are available. He routinely discusses it in interviews. He has even filmed commercials that feature him eating grass while standing on the ESPN College Game Day set. His nickname and his grass eating are notable parts of his public persona and I feel that they are warrented to be included in the article. Aub2010bcsnc (talk) 02:41, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

The material would be fine if it were well-written and properly sourced. So far, the attempts to add the material to this article have been very poorly-written and often derogatory and disrespectful of the subject. ElKevbo (talk) 03:53, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Forgive me ElKevbo, for I am new at editing wikipedia, and am just learning as I go along. I very much disagree that I am "derogatory and disrespectful of the subject" and am sorry if that is how you feel. It is not my intent. On a constructive level, You say that my material was not properly sourced. I do not understand how you say that as I cited multiple sources that I felt meant the standard of a suitable source that you cited to me in your last complaint. You say it was poorly-written, and I will give you that, but only in the terms that you are able to improve my prose, instead of just deleting it. I do not feel as if it is a slam on Miles in any way to point out. Indeed, it is one of the more nationally well known things about him. He even did a commercial with the ESPN Game Day crew where he ate grass and determined what type of grass he ate. If he openly comments on it to the media(as he did in the sources I cited) and participates in national television commercials about the habit, I don't know why you have such an objection. As I said, I am new at this, so perhaps I just fail to understand the nuances of wikipedia editing, but I am trying. I hope you will offer assistance and assume good faith. If you look at my brief history at wikipedia revisions, you will see that I am not a troll. If it is just a matter of prose, I hope that you will offer me solid advice rather than just saying that my attempts "sucked" at it. Aub2010bcsnc (talk) 05:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

If you write a draft here I'd be happy to help edit it. ElKevbo (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Given the new (and improved) biography, I am not sure where to place it, but I feel it should still have its place. Here I go "LSU fans refer to Miles as "The hat" due to the baseball style cap he wears on the sideline, but he is known better nationally as the mad hatter, due to the fact that he wears the hat and frequently chooses an offensive play on fourth down instsead of puning the football as many teams do. Prior to games, Miles likes to eat grass, as he says it humbles him, and allows him to become part of the game. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aub2010bcsnc (talk • contribs) 06:21, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

The number of spelling and grammar errors is appalling and makes me wonder if you take this seriously. But I said I'd help edit so:

Draft

Fans, players, and the media playfully poke fun at Miles for his eccentricities. He has earned nicknames such as "The Hat" and the "Mad Hatter" for his every-present baseball cap and aggressive coaching style. He also eats grass from the playing field before each game, a practice that he says "lets me know that I'm a part of the field and part of the game."

Draft discussion

A few good references from other publications would be welcome. ElKevbo (talk) 05:25, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I would hope that minor errors such as missing the "t" in punting would not discourage you from the principle of assuming good faith, as I can assure you, I have it. Off the subject, I feel as if you deal with our disagreements with ad hominem attacks ("sucks" "appalling") instead of just dealing with factual material. I have looked at your contributions, and realise they are vast. I cannot be the wikipedian that you are. I would just hope that you take a more compromising tone with me and don't bite the newbie. I can find you an almost infinite number of new sources as to both the "mad hatter" and to the grass eating claims, but I do not understand what you want. Indeed, I did include a television commercial shot by Miles where he eats grass. I don't understand what further references you want. Almost any publication covering CFB has talked about both things in relation to Miles. If you name a source that you would like, I can provide it. Aub2010bcsnc (talk) 06:39, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

This is a written encyclopedia with work coordinated between volunteers using written communication. Editors who write poorly are at a significant disadvantage. Consistent misspellings and typos bode particularly poorly for some editors as they may be a sign of laziness and a lack of respect for other editors. Let's try to meet in the middle: Try to be more conscientious about your writing and I'll try to be less of an asshole. :)

To the content: I know there are tons of sources we could use but many of them are not good sources. Remember that we have to rely on high quality sources to try to ensure we make this encyclopedia as reliable as possible. So we can't use material such as fan blogs, amateur reports, and stories published by unknown publications who don't have an established reputation for accuracy. We often rely on traditional, established media as they are usually (but not always!) reliable: major newspapers, well-known news organizations, specialized publications with reputations of quality, etc.

Does that help? I'm not sure we need many more references for this particular bit of material. But it's weird and if we can add more sources, especially some non-ESPN sources (since we already have several), since we're describing a living person. ElKevbo (talk) 07:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

According to your edit, which I will add more to if needed,I simply propose a spelling change: Fans, players, and the media playfully poke fun at Miles for his eccentricities. He has earned nicknames such as "The Hat" and the "Mad Hatter" for his ever-present baseball cap and aggressive coaching style.[5][6] He also eats grass from the playing field before each game, a practice that he says "lets me know that I'm a part of the field and part of the game."[7] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aub2010bcsnc (talk • contribs) 06:42, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing how that differs from what I wrote. Go ahead and edit the draft statement above so we all stay on the same page (literally). ElKevbo (talk) 07:31, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Vacated wins

I am adding the vacated wins back to his record. It is absurd and contrary to history to list the vacated seasons as 0-3, 0-4 etc. They played all the games. List the wins then add an asterisk saying they were later vacated.

Thanks 66.195.49.99 (talk) 15:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of the policy of vacating wins either. But the place to file a complaint about that policy is not here. It's with the NCAA. Our job here is to best reflect what reliable sources report. Miles' official coaching record currently reflects those 37 vacated wins; see https://stats.ncaa.org/people/2361?sport_code=MFB. I've cleaned up the head coaching record table, improved the note about the vacated wins, and added some relevant sourcing. I also added some detail to the body of the article about Miles filing suit on this issue; see the "Controversies" section. Jweiss11 (talk) 20:34, 22 July 2024 (UTC)