Talk:Lilith

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Former good article nomineeLilith was a Philosophy and religion good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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  • Cleanup : -Shorten and remove least notable uses of Lilith in popular culture section.
  • Copyedit : -Patai and Hurwitz have two sources and it's confused which source is being called upon in the notes. For example, no note should read Hurwitz p. xx but instead read Hurwitz (1980) p.xx or Huritz (1992) p.xx -There are missing page numbers from many sources. -This article is using the NOTES - REFERENCES style of annotation so the <ref name="NAME"/> inline notations for sources with multiple pages listed in the Reference section is not used and need to be edited to a <ref>Author (DATE) p. xx</ref> style. -Check on capitalization and individualism throughout. If it is a common demon lilitu then it's lower case if it's the Lilith it's upper case. In each usage what are we talking about? Is it THE Ki-sikil-lil-la-ke? Is it Lilu or lilu? Is it ever Lilitu or should it alwasy be lilitu? Is it Ardat-lil or is there ardat-lil's? There is consistency in Hurwitz's book but not across sources.

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2017[edit]

The last sentence on this article expresses a misleading idea and it's supported by an non-secure link. It states that it is the point of of view of a religious group when it is not. The source that they site reads as follows: "it is SAID that Joseph Smith the Prophet taught that Adam had two wives. Without however, assuming or basing anything upon this theory, or upon this tradition—which may be mythical in its character—it is nevertheless, very evident that marriage was ordained of God;". I consider that the sentence can be omitted since it doesn't give more information to enrich the topic, and it doesn't come from a reliable source. 173.10.192.214 (talk) 14:27, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. — IVORK Discuss 02:38, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Latter-day Saint View section[edit]

The statement is that "The Journal of Discourses claims that Joseph Smith believed Adam had two wives: Eve and Lilith." The reference in question (http://jod.mrm.org/26/114) reads as follows: "The Scriptures give an account simply of the woman Eve; declaring that this name was given her of Adam, because she was “the mother of all living;” but outside of biblical record there has been handed down from time immemorial the idea that Adam had two wives, the narrators go so far, or rather so near perfecting the tradition so as to give their names, Lilith being said to be the name of one as Eve was the name of the other, and while it may be difficult to harmonize all the Rabbinical and Talmudic versions of this matter, it is said that Joseph Smith the Prophet taught that Adam had two wives. Without however, assuming or basing anything upon this theory, or upon this tradition—which may be mythical in its character—it is nevertheless, very evident that marriage was ordained of God;" The statement was made by Henry W. Naisbitt on March 8, 1885. Naisbitt was a prominent Church member, but not a general authority. He would not have been in a position to pronounce doctrinal matters, nor did he pretend to do so. The above quote merely shows that he was familiar with the legends of Lilith. He also is familiar with an unsourced tradition that Joseph Smith claimed that Adam had two wives. He allows the reader to draw their own conclusion based on this admitted speculation, and only uses it as perhaps a side comment for his main point that "marriage was ordained of God." The legends surrounding Lilith do not form part of LDS Church doctrine, and suggesting that they do may be irresponsible. However, I don't want to remove this unilaterally in case someone has a contrary argument. It may be an interesting sidenote that there is a mention of her in LDS literature, but whether that is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia is debatable, and at the least the statement should be modified since it does not represent an accurate view of LDS teachings. Ryan Reeder (talk) 20:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

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