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Origin of XD[edit]

Was the "XD" duo of letters chosen because of the XD emoticon? It is the only reason I can think of for their use... (Please forgive my bad English... I am Brazilian and it's not my mother language.) --Ivan Linares (talk) 05:28, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Please of open File:Disney XD HD.png, i don't can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.79.36.104 (talk) 13:21, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Why is this a "disambiguation" page?[edit]

This is not a disambiguation page; it is a list of affiliated television channels/networks. It contains content that is not appropriate for a disambiguation page. And, a disambiguation page is used only when there are several different topics (i.e., unrelated except for their names) that a title could refer to. I was just going to remove the template, but given the title of the page, that would be awkward. How about List of Disney XD channels? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

  • Agreed, this is a "List of" page. Just move it to the right title. bd2412 T 03:04, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

List of channels[edit]

If this article is to remain a list of channels using the "Disney XD" brand, should not all of them be listed? Or was the 11 November 2012 revision lacking references? If this is a list of Wikipedia articles using the name "Disney XD" (also known as a disambiguation page) it should be treated as such, and the article content should be removed, and the title get renamed. The page should not exist in its current state, where it looks like it could be either one. 117Avenue (talk) 03:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

If there is not going to be any discussion on this, I'll make the decision. 117Avenue (talk) 04:50, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Although it would be easy to maintain a disambiguation page, I think this page should remain as a list. I have expanded it with all the countries that I could find. The article is still short, some useful constructive expansion would be appreciated. 117Avenue (talk) 05:48, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

It was decided that all European localized articles were merged and so I did that. Disney XD (Europe) has all info about the localized editions as well. There no need for such an extensive list when most are linking to the same article... C0re1980 (talk) 09:02, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
As I explained above, this is not a disambiguation page, it is a list of channels. As an encyclopaedic list it is to be as extensive as possible, regardless of where the articles on the channels are. 117Avenue (talk) 03:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Redirects for discussion[edit]

I have nominated a number of redirects for discussion that affect this page. 117Avenue (talk) 07:19, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Referenced[edit]

117Avenue: "everything is referenced, your version is a mess"

Every thing was referenced in my version, sorry you could not figure that out. My version wasn't a mess. Resorting by market name was not necessary as the table is a sortable table on every field, the order was date order. You dropped the sourced information of Family Extreme being the original planned Canadian cable channel which was switched over to Disney XD. --Spshu (talk) 19:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes the table is sortable, but the table needs to have an order upon first page load. Your version was not in order by date, the Italy HD channel was 2012 amongst 2009, the France HD channel was 2011 amongst 2009. Your version does not sort correctly. Yes "Family Extreme" was a registered name for a planned channel, but it was not a channel that became Disney XD, it never existed. You do not have a source for February 13, 2009. You do not properly format the table headers. You separate certain channels into standard definition and high definition, excluding ones you cannot verify. You do not consider +1 and HD channels as different feeds of the same channel. You do not have references for many of your operators. Some rows are missing operator cells. You do not use the correct name of the United States. You do not separate the feeds of Latin America. You use an icon for Japan and India. You link to the countries of Japan and India, when the rest of the column, and one would expect, link to the channel. You list Sri Lanka as separate, when the reference says it has the same channel as India. You do not list Ireland as a major part of the United Kingdom's market. You call Dutch a market, when the article is called Netherlands. You do not provide a reference for "Middle East". You separated Southeast Asia when the article calls it one channel. You call Lithuania part of Russia. What part of my version was unreferenced, or a mess? 117Avenue (talk) 03:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
It is order by date of when the main channel was available in that market as it was easier to source that way. Family Extreme existed because it was licensed but the license was switched over to DXD, if you bother to read the source, it existed as a license and Family Extreme was marked as "planned". Of course, I would excluded channels that I cannot verify that is the point of WP sourcing.
Fix the MOS error instead of yelling at me and giving it as as a reason to claim that it is "unsourced" or a mess. I went with how MASIVE ["Disney XD (version in Dutch)"] and BroadbandTVnews ("Disney XD will take the place of the Dutch language version of Jetix in The Netherlands and Belgium on January 1. ") tracked the channels, you cannot edit against source. The source doesn't not say that Sri Lanka is same as the India channel, just that Disney India seems to be in charge of it. You don't separate the Latin America feeds either and remove the fact that MASIVE treats +1 and HD as separate channels. I do list Ireland as being able to receive the UK channel. The India and Japan errors derived from the Jetix channel table and the fact that it was move to Disney XD as there isn't any much difference except launch date and some localized programming, but several editors firmly insist that they each have their own article. Thus that in effect is your error not mine. There was no "Middle East" listing & I have removed it from Turkey. Southeast Asia is a tricky one, some source state that it is one channel, while some indicate channels spinning off like Thailand. I do not call Lithuania a part of Russia any more then you claim that Ireland is a part of the UK, it is how ever the only listed market that the Russian language channel is available.
What was unreferenced, all Canadian version besides the main channel and the removal of the sourced Family Extreme. You disgard the fact that MASIVE treats all time shift and format (HD) channels as separate channels. It also loses the fact that the German Toon Disney +1 was switch over to DXD. Spshu (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Sourcing[edit]

Bankster1, continuing our discussion from my talk page. No, you may not cite the German Wikipedia as a source. You need to stop being disruptive to the article by adding unsourced information and fight the reverse of that information by vague claims of unnamed source. You need to edit to source. Sources only indicate 3 Spanish feeds for the Latin America channel and you have added a single source to support five feeds except for the source indicating 3 (and removing the translation links too). YOu have already gone past 3RR and I failed to note that I did too, but you are be disruptive. Spshu (talk) 00:35, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Excuse me, but if you look at the history of this article, you can clearly see that you were the first to break the 3RR. So, it's not my fault. As I've said, people from around the world contributes with information about these things, and you're only removing their contributions only because there's "not enough sources". Open your eyes. DXD is not limited only for the USA, as I clearly see you're living in. It's worldwide, and the fact that you just want to mess up related articles (may I have remind you the moment when you tried to convert Disney XD USA into Disney XD International?). I'm only here to fix articles that needs some clear information. I'm looking four sources, and it's not easy, and you should appreciate that. I come from Latin America and I can confirm there are 5 feeds of Disney XD, same with Disney Channel. (Mexican, North Atlantic, Brazilian, Pacific and South Atlantic) I have friends on international forums who claim over different DXD channels in the world, not only from your country. And I can confirm the dates I've written in the tab are real, I'm not inventing them. If many articles from other Wikipedias copy information from the English wiki, why not in the inverse version? As they have more information about their local channel. Common sense. And it's very clear that Disney XD Russia doesn't exist. Haven't you read the articles in which Jetix Russia is replaced by Disney Channel? Are you concerned there's no Disney Junior channel there? So, why a Disney XD channel would exist there? The channel being broadcasted not only in Lithuania, but in Latvia and Estonia is DXD Scandinavia with a Russian audio-track added by the Walt Disney Company Europe, and it's being carried by Viasat, because, I don't know if you know this, the Baltics has a large number of Russian-speaking population from the Soviet-era and, because of silly politics, Disney Channel Russia isn't carried by Viasat in the Baltics. Instead, they've made a Russian track for Disney Channel and XD Nordic. If you want to discuss more, go to my talk page. -Bankster1 (talk) 05:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me that I admit that did too go over 3RR as you got a warning too, some administrators are not going to care who did it first, but you continued to do so even after starting a discussion, but not waiting for a consensus [(WP:BRD). It is I who request the page protection. So, it is your fault as you still when over 3RR. You have said that this is their personal research, which is against Wikipedia:No original research. You have three section started on your talk page about adding sources as WP relies on them because a key point is verifiability (Wikipedia:Verifiability, not truth), I cannot see what your friends see. so, what that Disney XD is worldwide that is why there is an article called List of Disney XD TV channels. No you may not bring up "the moment when you tried to convert Disney XD USA into Disney XD International". It is irrelevant and you are just attempt to use it as a shield against whether or not their are enough sources. Secondly, the source are general not there and the article just get slapped with a bunch of unsourced shows with wikilinks. Jetix works just find as a international article. Provide the source, it doesn't made one iota where you are from, so no your statements are not allow under original research as are your statements from your forum friends. You and your friends do not meet verifiability or reliable sources. in effect you are inventing them with out source. I have also caught you adding a nonsense source from the Disney.RU website about movie actors visits that has nothing to do with Disney XD. Disney XD RUSSIAN note the language not the country and their is a source which except for you imploring YouTube or your friend. The copying should be of sourced information not just what ever viz via foreign language wikipedias as per WP:WPNOTRS: "Thus Wikipedia articles (or Wikipedia mirrors) are not reliable sources for any purpose." There is the source that I placed on the Jetix article about Jetix Russian become Disney Channel MAVISE which also indicated (else where) the Russian language IPTV channel in the Baltic. Disney Channel is over the air there too. Spshu (talk) 01:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Excuse me for being persistent, but aren't you use a shield stating I'm not using correct sources, which many of them (excluding the Wikipedias' ones) are true? You're missing one point here: "Anyone can edit this article". We are equal. The thing that differs from me is the fact you have a long history being here, while I joined in January 2014. I'm trying to contribute here, and you cannot revert my editions only because I didn't put the sources at the right time, which can be seen in many of your reverts. The situation in which you wanted to change Disney XD US to International is valid here, since you were persistent in a theme which it's not accepted by many of the participants here. And yes! You're doing it again, by reverting my editions in which it has many sources which are right. I can prove Lithuania doesn't have the IPTV Russian Disney Channel and has the Scandinavian DC/DXD there with Russian audio, which has been proven to air with that audio on Latvia via YouTube from a user that TVripped that moment. You may say "YouTube is not a valid source". I say it is, because many facts proven on different articles were proven and are still proven with a YouTube video, or you have not seen the "Rude Removal" episode on Dexter's Laboratory article being sourced with a YouTube link? You're stating arguments like "[...]because it can be dubbed[...]" which are nonsense, because the video was "TVRipped", and the user wouldn't waste its time to make a fake video. The same user mentioned here TVripped Disney Channel Scandinavia (NU) on its Russian audiotrack via Viasat Latvia, and I assume this is not "dub". About the Jetix article, I remember you tried to revert my longtime edition of the Disney Channel Russia premiere, putting a false date (which, in fact, could be the autorization of Disney landing on Russia), when it was on 10 August 2010, instead of March 1st RiaNovosti. I'm not inventing anything. MAVISE is not a valuable source, because it can have wrong information about this and you would not be aware of that. For example, Jetix Russia to DC Russia, which I've prove wrong. What if I told you everything you say is not right? You're not the brain of anybody. Anyone can contribute here; this is not your article. What if, as I've said, DC/DXD Scandinavia has a source of airing on the Baltics? What if I prove there's 3 channels of DXD in the USA (which is stated by DirecTV: SD East, HD East, SD West)? What if I prove DXD ZA is in fact a branch from DXD EMEA? What if I told you DXD Turkey is the same channel (DXD EMEA) but only with Turkish continuity, and the channel airs in the Balkans too?

I will not hesitate on this. -Bankster1 (talk) 01:00, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Third opinion[edit]

Searchtool-80%.png Response to third opinion request:
First off, both of you were indeed edit-warring (which is probably why the article was then protected), but you both acknowledge it so I'm not going to leave warnings on your respective talk pages. But as for the subject of sourcing, I wholeheartedly agree with Spshu, as other wikis cannot be used as reliable sources in themselves because technically, they are user-generated content. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 06:54, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

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Protected[edit]

Howdy, I've protected this article as it's again being disputed. Nakon 03:38, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Since this was a cross article dispute, disputers were requested to discuss the matter at Talk:Disney Channels Worldwide#Talk:Disney_Channels_Worldwide#Disney_Asia. --Spshu (talk) 20:49, 6 January 2018 (UTC)