Talk:List of Donald Trump 2020 presidential campaign endorsements/Archive 1

Archive 1

John Kennedy withdrew his support?

I find that claim to be false and the 2 "sources" are not reputable. One is a live stream video and the other from a heavily biased CNN. Correction is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:1:817:0:0:0:64 (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Kanye West

Where is he?

-- 93.132.113.82 (talk) 21:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

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Inclusion criteria for endorsements

The following criteria are in effect for endorsements on this and similar lists.

There is consensus among participating editors that endorsements from an individual must meet all three of the following criteria for inclusion on a list of endorsements:

1. The endorser must have an article or be unquestionably entitled to one
2. This endorsement must be covered by reliable and independent sources
3. Coverage of the endorsement needs to use the word endorse, or other closely related synonym.

See WP:ENDORSERFC for details. - MrX 🖋 00:26, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Do we really need the first part in the endorsements column?

This is a place for endorsements. Why all the talk about Hoover and Ford and past primaries and how you believe the GOP party broke FEC rules. Enough with the biased behavior, wiki.Bjoh249 (talk) 23:03, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

The article doesn't state or claim that the GOP broke FEC rules. Re-read the given text more carefully. As for the Hoover and Ford text (and I can't possibly see how you would view mention of Hoover and Ford as "biased" against Trump), this is an encyclopedia article so we need to ground the article in its historical context. — Bilorv (talk) 09:47, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

But it reads like it’s trying to explain to Anti-Trumpers why he is being renominated. Bringing these one-term losing GOP presidents up reads like wiki editors are hoping Trump meets the same fate. I don’t see anything similar on Democrat-related articles, like Obama and Clinton. Bjoh249 (talk) 23:17, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Yet, @Bjoh249: that's how you read it; if you're unable to understand the historical context/significance, then I'm afraid that is no one else's problem but yours. This is an encyclopedia — of course we're going to give historical context — and we don't simply remove things just because you don't like it. The Democrat-related articles don't say that, perhaps because the Democrats didn't do that? either way: we also don't remove content simply because another article doesn't say the same thing. This list is about Trump's endorsements, not past Democratic candidates. Also, don't cast aspersions re biased editing especially seeing as you're unable to adequately back that up. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 05:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia, it’s biased garbage. Yeah, I said it. I don’t care what you do in return. Anyone with a brain knows Wikipedia is nothing but leftist propaganda. Bjoh249 (talk) 06:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Bjoh249: speaking of "bias", good to know you're transparent about yours. And you say all of that... yet you're here with an account editing. Nobody is forcing you to edit this "leftist" "garbage". You're more than welcome to edit at Conservapedia if you like? Kind regards, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 12:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

If Wikipedia would just be neutral, there would be no need for a Conservapedia.

Bjoh249 (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

It is neutral. You could say it's to the left of Conservapedia and the right of RationalWiki. Either way, your efforts to delegitimise Wikipedia are pretty futile considering it still is the biggest encyclopedia in the world, and still will be tomorrow, the next day, and the very next day after that. If you have any actual neutrality concerns for this particular list, please put them forward and articulate why they're a concern based on policy, otherwise this discussion is moot. Thanks, —MelbourneStar☆^talk 03:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Paul Ryan

Ryan said "We’re clearly better off because of @RealDonaldTrump. His record of accomplishment is why he’ll win re-election especially when compared to Dems’ leftward lurch." Sounds like an endorsement.Pennsylvania2 (talk) 17:09, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

I would oppose inclusion for now, per #3 WP:ERFC: "Coverage of the endorsement needs to use the word endorse, or other closely related synonym."

• The statement Ryan initially released, and then further clarified doesn't appear to be an endorsement. I immediately interpreted it as him stating what he views as fact or as a prediction based on circumstances: that Trump has accomplished a lot and therefore will win. Think about it: if Ryan wanted to endorse Trump, he would have said that he supports Trump's re-election, he endorses Trump, and so forth. He did not.
• No reliable sources have described Ryan's comments as an endorsement or support for Trump's 2020 campaign. In fact, I suspect they're noticing how Ryan's side-stepped endorsing Trump.

I would support inclusion only when Ryan's position is further clarified, which I imagine will occur as the election draws closer. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:26, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Police Unions

Some Police Unions have endorsed Trump. However, they do not have Wikipedia pages and redirects to the state police do not mention these unions. Should these endorsements stay up? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 00:22, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, I would say yes. These unions represent a lot of people. Having a Wikipedia article is not a requirement and I think these are notable enough to leave. What do you think? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:46, 22 August 2020 (UTC)

Does Indian PM Modi endorse Trump?

Hi! ^_^. I have trouble identifying the message of Mr. Modi here — Did he endorse Mr. Trump?. It's confusing for me, so I didn't add him below Filipino President but I'd like to know opinions. Thank you cherish you all :) --CoryGlee (talk) 18:15, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

CoryGlee, it’s in the title of the article so I’d personally have to say yes, it should be included. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 22:39, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Kyle Rittenhouse

I know that things like this can be contentious, so I thought I'd bring it up here first before making any changes. I have several problems with Kyle Rittenhouse's entry on this list. First, the description. "Domestic terrorist" is not a term that should be thrown around lightly. And I see no evidence (at least in the cited source) for the claim that he's a white supremacist. The other issue I see is I'm not sure he should be included at all. The closest I could find to an endorsement in the linked article was that he attended a Trump rally. That is something, but I'm not sure that's enough evidence to meet the standards for what an endorsement means. Feedback would be appreciated before I make any changes. AKT0001 (talk) 03:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

We CANNOT describe this person as a terrorist or white supremacist in Wikipedia's voice, and it certainly does not belong in an endorsement article. It would violate WP:BLP. - MrX 🖋 14:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm still skeptical it should be included at all. The coverage seems to violate Rule 3 given above on this page for what constitutes an endorsement. AKT0001 (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

You're right. I didn't even think about that. Out it goes. - MrX 🖋 15:12, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Rittenhouse attended a Trump rally this year. Others on this list such as Greg Pence, Scott Perry, Papa John, Lee Zeldin and others are only on here because they attended a Trump rally. Why is there a different standard? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 00:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Attending a rally is not equivalent to an endorsement. The others on the list that you mention should also be removed if the only reason they're listed is because of attending a rally. Thanks for catching them. - MrX 🖋 00:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Then should I go ahead and remove them? What about speaking at a rally? Is that different? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 00:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure. Just speaking is not equivalent to an endorsement, but if a source says that someone endorsed a candidate during their rally speech, then obviously that's an endorsement. You can read WP:ERFC to get a better idea of how the community views the more nuanced cases. - MrX 🖋 00:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Outgoing Japan's PM Abe

Hi! ^_^ hope you are fine. I added Japan's Abe and cited a news, but I am not sure if I understood the article correctly. He endorsed him in 2016 and appears to continue support through 2020 but not sure I got the message of the article. If you deem it wrong, please feel free to delete that. Cherish you all :) --CoryGlee (talk) 19:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I do not believe he endorsed Trump in 2016 and the article does not mention a 2020 endorsement. It just states that Abe supported a close relationship between the US and Japan. Netanyahu has made similar statements, but is not listed because he did not officially endorse Trump. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 20:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2 Oh, fine, I am removing it then. I didn't understand well. I have comprehension issues ^_^ especially in a foreign language. Thank you and big hug. --CoryGlee (talk) 20:06, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

No worries. Hope you are well. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Steve Mnuchin

The source for Steve Mnuchin mentions that he is working with Trump to cut taxes, but that does not seem like an endorsement. Should these be removed? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes unless there is another source. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 September 2020

Remove Cardinal Dolan from endorsement listing. The Cardinal prayed, he did not "speak." He prayed for both candidates, and would have offered the same prayer for the Democrats/Biden if he were asked; in fact, he offered to pray at the DNC, but they had already made other arrangements. Katherinesv1011 (talk) 15:01, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Done! In the future Katherinesv1011, add the link to your request so that another editor can easily find it and make your change. Happy editing! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 05:32, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Delegates vs. Representatives

The terms are synonymous. Why are they grouped separately? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 04:46, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Are these terms synonyms? The state uses that term for them and not house of representatives Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 18:52, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it's just the lower chamber. Virginia and Maryland use the term, as it originates from colonial times, but they act in the exact same way. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 04:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Tim Pool

It is becoming clear that the blocking of adding Tim Pool is being done on the basis of pedantry and nothing more. As per WP:Ignoreallrules I would humbly request that editor assume good faith and not revert this addition. The value of a source should be used in context. You're not going to find a CNN article on tim pools endorsement.Alexandre8 (talk) 00:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

• The whole "humbly" thing contradicts your opening sentence. If reliable sources don't report on his "endorsement", well, guess what: it doesn't matter. You can't talk about the "value" of a source if there is no source. Drmies (talk) 00:31, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree with points that both Drmies and Alexandre8. I agree that Tim Pool is notable, but since no coverage of his endorsement has been cited (other than youtube which is not a reliable source), then it should not be added. This is an easy case, let’s not let things get out of hand. Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Nick Sandmann

Nick Sandmann did not "confront" a Native American activist, as this page erroneously claims. In fact, the literal opposite is true, which is confirmed by video evidence. It's stunning that this lie is being kept alive so long after it was debunked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:4C02:82C0:A0C3:6D30:8E5E:6231 (talk) 19:33, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I've corrected it. Editors should be aware of the multi million dollar lawsuit by now. Alexandre8 (talk) 00:27, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Alexandre8 and User talk:2601:1C2:4C02:82C0:A0C3:6D30:8E5E:6231#top, which source are you basing this on? Please cite below before additional discussion. Thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 00:45, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to counter both sides of this discussion by noting my belief that the language should be changed to "a confrontation with" the Native American activist. This is NPOV and is in-line with the description on the page itself, which refers to "a widely reported confrontation between groups of political demonstrators." If the Wikipedia article is insufficient, several articles referenced use similar language that changes "X confronted Y" to language more along the lines of: "a controversial encounter" (CNN), "a collision of three groups" (NYT), or an "encounter". NomadicNom (talk) 01:23, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

seems like a more accurate description ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:1370:8112:1816:BC44:C7AE:ED37:524F (talk • contribs)

I’d be in favor of that. However, let other editors state their opinions here in an attempt to reach consensus before changing it back. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:30, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

At this stage I'm flabbergasted anyone could have missed this story! We must avoid contentious language especially in light of this major lawsuit. https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/washington-post-sandmann-settlement-lawsuit/index.html. https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/19/media/nick-sandmann-washington-post-lawsuit/index.html . I've changed to neutral language as per his wikipedia page which IS sourced. Alexandre8 (talk) 10:39, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

David Horowitz

Horowitz is NOT far right. No source was used to describe him as far right in this article, or on his wikipedia page. This must not be reverted. Please see WP:BLP Alexandre8 (talk) 10:43, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Nazi/White nationalist endorsements

There have been some very questionable additions of some Nazis and white nationalists to the page. Often poorly sourced or speculation. Given the severity of such an endorsement I would urge editors to pay scrutiny to such additions and make sure they adhere to all points of WP:Endorsement. Alexandre8 (talk) 16:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Notability of Goya Foods

Another user has suggested bringing the inclusion of the CEO Rob Unanue of Goya foods to the talk page as per point 1 of WP:Endorsements. He receieved a great deal of media attention in July when he publically expressed support for Trump. There were campaigns from some celebrities to boycott the company as a result. I would suggest someone worth boycotting is someone worth including. He has a wikipedia page but it's merged with the Unanue family Thoughts? Alexandre8 (talk) 15:09, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

The CEO never even used the word endorse. He just called Trump a good leader. Some news coverage doesn't equal notability, either. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 16:44, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

the way it was blown up in the media you'd think it was an endorsement. Guess it was an overreaction on their behalf but you make a valid point. ! Alexandre8 (talk) 16:47, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Separate Heading for Political runners and nominees?

Do people think we should have a different sub heading for political runners and current Republican nominees? At the moment some of them are under activists, some are under sports personalities etc Alexandre8 (talk) 20:33, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

I’m not sure. However , this section does need to be split. It’s too vague and it’s too large. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 21:30, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Doesn't seem like the talk page is getting much traction. Let's just it for now. If I were to edit it, I'd make a mistake with the format. Alexandre8 (talk) 11:23, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2020

Don't forget to add that Florida U.S. Senator Rick Scott was Governor of Florida (2011-2019) before Ron DeSantis took on the role; term limits, y'know? 68.194.69.151 (talk) 17:02, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:55, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2020

• Steve Souza 1558135a (talk) 21:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ Amkgp 💬 15:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2020

1558135a (talk) 02:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Charlie Daniels

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ Amkgp 💬 15:23, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2020

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• Sully Erna

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References

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2020

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• Mark Kendall

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References

Semi-protected edit request on 25 September 2020

1558135a (talk) 02:28, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

• Audie Desbrow

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References

Semi-protected edit request on 27 September 2020

Remove bullet point "Scott Morrison, Prime Minister of Australia (2018–present)[190]"

In the "International Politicians" section, Scott Morrison is listed as having endorsed Donald Trump. This has not happened as he has not endorsed either candidate in 2020. The source cited [190] is an opinion piece by Kevin Rudd, a former Australian prime minister from the opposition party. There is no endorsement referenced in this piece.

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139.216.183.39 (talk) 06:20, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done Dylsss (talk) 06:42, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Image of Liz Cheney

I think an image of Liz Cheney, the House Republican Conference Chairwoman, should be added, since she is the #3 Republican in the House right now. After all, Biden's endorsements page has an image of Jim Clyburn, the current House Majority Whip and the #3 Democrat in the House. Lexikhan310 (talk) 20:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Colombian Senators

Should Colombian senators be added? Many of them do not have an English Wikipedia article but they have them in Spanish and are also major government officials. Thoughts? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 05:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

A Colombian Senator without an English page was removed from Biden's page. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 18:42, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, where? I couldn’t find it. I think for any endorsement page, a member of the national legislative branch is notable enough for inclusion. What do you think? Anyone else have any opinions? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:49, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Leopaldo Martinez until his page was translated into English. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 01:53, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, I see that now. I propose that any country’s senator or equivalent ranking should be added since this is a very high government title. I think they would be notable. Thoughts? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 02:45, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I would agree. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 03:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Senators

I added John Thune's photo as he is the Senate Majority Whip. That is the third highest Senate official in the Republican Party. Tim Scott is the junior Senator from South Carolina and Lindsay Graham already has a photo. Speaking at the RNC is NOT the criteria for having a photo, but notability and their ranking position is. Do NOT remove and edit war without a consensus. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 21:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Sthacker21 seems adamant on having Scott's picture. Can we get some other opinions? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 14:48, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, have you reported this user yet? Not only have they broken the 3R rule (almost twice) but their edit summaries show they are going to continue the edit war. They are clearly not willing to discuss. Report them now so that this edit war comes to an end. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:40, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I have requested an administrator. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 18:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Photos

User talk:Pennsylvania2 and User talk:Sthacker21, I am pinging both of you on this talk page due to the ongoing photo war. There appears to be a back and forth on this page (not just you two) on photos, and I’m going to start calling it out when I see it. It appears both of you have good intentions, but the photos are changing multiple times a day which should not happen with an article. Please use this page next time to discuss before adding, deleting, or changing a photo. You can also post a message on each other’s talk page to discuss an issue (whether it’s overall inclusion or just one photo). I’m also always happy to chime in on pretty much anything, so just give me a ping. Warm regards, Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 06:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Sthacker21, you continuing reverting edits which have previously been made. Either use the talk page or take a break from photos. It will help keep down the controversy, thank you. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

POV being pushed on both sides there. Provocative clan hood picture was originally uploaded. Photo is changed. Middle ground found. Let's leave it? Haven't we got better things to be doing. Alexandre8 (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Sthacker21, use this talk page to discuss. Last warning. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:37, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Reminder

Since the last round of elections, a centralised RfC has adopted WP:POLEND as a set of standards for inclusion of endorsements. This mandates:

1. Lists of endorsements should only include endorsements by notable people.
2. Lists of endorsements should only include endorsements which have been covered by reliable independent sources.
3. Lists of endorsements should only include endorsements which are specifically articulated as "endorsements".

Please note in particular #2 here: we cannot include endorsements reported only in blogs, social media and other self-published sources. That's because in most cases we're talking about living people and we should not be the primary arbiters of whether they have endorsed one candidate or another. I just removed a number of references to a blog which has no credible evidence of authority, for example. I have done the same at the equivalent lists for Biden. This is a community standard that must be applied uniformly.

I don't know if Fox's standing as unreliable for politics would count here or not, so I will ask at WP:RSN. Guy (help! - typo?) 13:29, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Police unions

If a police union doesn’t have a page for itself, is it worthy of noting? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:41, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Gerhard Schröder

Gerhard Schröder, Chancellor of Germany (1998–2005) never endorsed Donald Trump. In the source cited, Schröder says that he thinks Trump has still a chance to win the election. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archie Burbuckle (talk • contribs) 09:24, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Removed. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 17:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please add Chairman of the Roane County Tennessee Commission Randy Ellis Mr. Ellis also serves as the Republican State Executive Committeeman on the Tennessee State Republican Party and was also an elected Delegate for Donald Trump from the Tennessee 3rd congressional district for the 2020 convention in Charlotte NC

http://roanecommission.com/about-us/ http://1057news.com/tag/randy-ellis/ https://sos-tn-gov-files.tnsosfiles.com/180802_RepbyCounty.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knox1635 (talk • contribs) 13:51, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

For everyone’s information

Just letting y’all know, there is an rfc at Wikipedia:Political endorsements regarding the addition of endorsements due to independent sourcing. Feel free to comment! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 22:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 October 2020

72.66.57.37 (talk) 15:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done you've provided no indication of what you want changed.Nil Einne (talk) 15:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Alleged Taliban Endorsement

I am formally requesting the alleged Taliban endorsement be removed from this list for two reasons: The Taliban spokesman has repeatedly refuted any supposed endorsement (as noted in the following references); and per the content guidelines of Wikipedia:Political endorsements, the alleged endorsement is not specifically and clearly articulated as an endorsement.

There has been a number of articles circulating, alleging an endorsement from the Taliban. In fact, this Wikipedia article even lists the Taliban as having endorsed Donald Trump’s campaign. However, the spokesman for the Taliban has repeatedly said neither he nor the Taliban endorse Trump.

‘The Taliban has denied endorsing Donald Trump after reports emerged claiming the Afghan militant group had said it hoped the US president would be re-elected.’ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/donald-trump-taliban-us-election-afghanistan-b959629.html?amp

‘Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid denied claim by CBS News that the Afghan group wants US President Donald Trump to win the election […].’ https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2020/10/11/2367327/taliban-denies-cbs-claim-of-endorsing-trump-reelection

‘Zabiullah Mujahid, chief spokesman for the Taliban, denies he has expressed support for US President Donald Trump in the upcoming US election.’ https://jpost.com/middle-east/taliban-spokesman-i-did-not-endorse-trump-645344/amp

‘The Taliban has denied endorsing Donald Trump's bid to be re-elected as US President.’ https://www.standard.co.uk/news/us-politics/taliban-denies-supporting-donald-trump-reelection-bid-a4568786.html?amp

‘A Taliban spokesperson has denied reports that the group hopes that President Trump will get reelected.’ https://www.revolt.tv/platform/amp/news/2020/10/11/21511540/taliban-denies-endorsing-trump-for-reelection

‘US news outlet @CBSNews has interpreted & published my remarks incorrectly. Nothing of the sort has been communicated as publicized by them.’ https://mobile.twitter.com/Zabehulah_M33/status/1315142375505899522?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1315142375505899522%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-3950273394135513414.ampproject.net%2F2009252320001%2Fframe.html

‘Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid has rubbished the CBS News interpretation of his words.’ https://www.rt.com/news/503165-cbs-incorrect-interpret-taliban/

With these numerous sources pointing to the lack of veracity in this claim, I would ask that we remove the endorsement from this list. Mobeelex (talk) 16:44, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

It has been several days since posting this to the discussion page. Given there appear to be no objections, I am going to edit the page to remove the Taliban from the list. Mobeelex (talk) 12:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Police Unions

Most of these police unions are just redirects to general placing info in a given state. Is it really notable that a union representing 148 people endorsed Trump. Generally redirects are removed unless notability can be established. Is it really fair to say that all these fit that criteria? Pennsylvania2 (talk) 03:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

• Ross Perot
• John O'Hurley
• Larry The Cable Guy
• Clint Eastwood
• Rob Schneider
• Tim Allen 1558135Josh (talk) 02:29, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

References

Rfc on Netanyahu’s inclusion

Should Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu be added based on this article [35]? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 21:16, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

• Yes Based on information from a reliable source. While it's not an American election, the subject of the article is "presidential campaign endorsements", which is relatively broad, in my opinion. Comatmebro (talk) 01:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• No The source says that Netanyahu wants Trump to win. But it doesn't say Netanyahu endorsed trump. Adoring nanny (talk) 02:59, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
• No No mention of an endorsement. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

The current tally is 3 yes (2 from the other section) and 2 no. I will add back this time tomorrow if there is no further opposition. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 22:49, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't see how 3-2 is a consensus. Further, you've yet to address my comments about Bibi. This closest you've gotten is a NYT piece that states that he wants Trump to win. However, an endorsement would have to consist of a public statement of support from Netanyahu. His private beliefs are not the same as a public statement by Netanyahu. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 04:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, it’s been on this page for a while now and so far 5 editors have commented, 3 in favor, 2 not. The New York Times stating his opinion on the article seems credible enough, even if he didn’t say it to a crowd or anything. Most of the people on here are just an article saying they support Trump. Therefore, I think Bibi should be included. However, you can take this to arbitration if you’d really like or just let him stay (he clearly is right wing similar to Trump) but it’s up to you though. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 05:27, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Is the endorsement based on this quote? Like Mr. Netanyahu, they are eager to see Mr. Trump win a second term in November. And at the White House on Tuesday, Mr. Netanyahu and a select group of Gulf Arab officials will be returning the favor, doing their part to repay and support Mr. Trump by participating in a signing ceremony for a pair of new accords between Israel and two Gulf nations, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, that Mr. Trump is promoting as a historic breakthrough.? If so, that's not an endorsement. ImTheIP (talk) 04:13, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

• No - because support is not the same thing as an endorsement. If he had actually endorsed him, then I think it could be added, but I think "endorsement" implies a more formal declaration that just the support he's offered. Wes sideman (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
• Yes Current reason for inclusion is due to him wanting Trump re elected. As another editor has said, I don’t know how this can be interpreted any differently. For foreign officials, an endorsement is just saying they want him to win. They can’t say they’re voting for him obviously. Therefore this wording of wanting him to win is constituted as an endorsement. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 03:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
• Not yet. Maybe his support could be interpreted as an endorsement. But us interpreting it that way before any reliable source does would be original research. – Anne drew 16:35, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

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• Tim "Ripper" Owens

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2020

Please add Lorenzo Lamas to the list of celebrities endorsing Donald Trump for President. He spoke at the Trump rally in Beverly Hills CA to express his support for Trump's re-election. Here are the articles that explains it.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/08/beverly-hills-pro-trump-rally/

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-08/trump-supporters-march-in-peaceful-demonstration-in-beverly-hills 146.115.150.68 (talk) 09:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Lorenzo Lamas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.150.68 (talk) 09:17, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done AbeautyfulMess06 (talk) 19:06, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

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Netanyahu

I agree Pennsylvania2, let’s not edit war here. I’ll ping Sthacker21 on this one too. I personally believe it should be added because the article says that he wants Trump to be re elected, which I think is close enough to being an endorsement. I don’t see any sight saying that he is not endorsing or that he is staying out of the election either. Despite it not explicitly stating “endorse” I think hoping for Trump to win in 2020 is very similar, especially for a foreign leader who obviously can’t say “I’m voting for trump in 2020”. He’s clearly rooting for him in 2020. Any thoughts? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 03:08, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree that it should be added. I think if we approach it from the otherway, is there any reasonable doubt he does not endorse Trump for this election? The article clearly states that Bibi supports trumps reelection. For me that is a clear endorsement. Alexandre8 (talk) 21:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

The current wording is synonymous with an endorsement. Plus it’s not some opinion conspiracy, it’s the NYT reporting he supports the reason election. If not other responses, I will add back tomorrow. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 08:52, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

sure thing! Alexandre8 (talk) 20:37, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Oppose It states Netanyahu is "eager to see Mr. Trump win a second term in November," which is most likely true. However, that is not a public endorsement of Trump's re-election campaign. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, isn’t it though? Isn’t endorsing a campaign just saying that you hope the other side wins? I think this is a synonym for endorse. Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 19:57, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

I can't see it being construed any other way personally Alexandre8 (talk) 20:46, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

I've yet to see a statement from Netanyahu stating that he hopes Trump wins. He has praised Trump, but he's yet to publicly say anything that can be seen as a statement of support. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 23:45, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

But Pennsylvania2, shouldn’t we trust NYT which is a reliable source? Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 01:25, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Eager for Trump to win is not an endorsement on it's own. I think Netanyahu should not be included unless a source explicitly says he endorsed Trump or he is quoting as being eager for Trump to win. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 01:55, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, this is similar to an addition that was just made on the Biden 2020 page for David Cameron. While he didn’t say if himself, a reliable source reported it. I think we need to go based off of what the source says about him Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 20:16, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

The endorsements aren't similar, though. Cameron source includes quotes from an interview. Netanyahu's endorsement is just speculation. Further, you have not addressed the fact that eager for a victory is not the same as publicly endorsing .Pennsylvania2 (talk) 23:34, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

It would be great if a few more users could weigh in on this. At the moment we're 2 to 1 in favour and thats not a consenus by a long shot. Alexandre8 (talk) 11:34, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I agree, this is most definitely not a consensus. Alexandre8 and Pennsylvania2, did you change your opinions at all? If not I am pretty sure I can start an rfc to get more editors to comment. Just wanted to do one more survey before I start it. Thanks! Lima Bean Farmer (talk) 17:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Have not changed. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 17:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

RFC sounds good to me Lima Bean Farmer!Alexandre8 (talk) 21:09, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

I have not seen any endorsement of Trump by Netanyahu, and would be very surprised to hear one exists, since Israel in general does not get officially involved in US elections. Both citations (including the NY Times piece) are opinion pieces speculating on what Netanyahu prefers, not on what he actually said. I think the mention of Netanyahu on the page should be removed. Yonatanm (talk) 01:45, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@Yonatanm: I agree that neither is an endorsement, and have removed the claim. ST47 (talk) 01:50, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

@ST47: Thanks. Should probably also remove his picture.

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• Paul Hogan

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Delete Please

Remove Lil Wayne and Ice Cube. Nothing about endorsing in the given links. Lil Wayne says it’s not political and that he’d do it for anyone to make things better.

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 14:52, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

The links do support what is said in the article. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 14:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Also add back the Taliban https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan

 Already done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 14:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Lorenzo Lamas

Please add Lorenzo Lamas to the list of celebrities endorsing Donald Trump for President. He spoke at the Trump rally in Beverly Hills CA to express his support for Trump's re-election. Here are the articles that explains it.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/08/08/beverly-hills-pro-trump-rally/

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-08/trump-supporters-march-in-peaceful-demonstration-in-beverly-hills

Lorenzo Lamas — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.150.68 (talk) 05:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

 Done Lorenzo Lamas has been added per previous request. AbeautyfulMess06 (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Milorad Dodik as international https://www.dnevno.hr/vijesti/dodik-otkrio-zasto-su-srbi-za-trumpa-jednu-stvar-posebno-zamjera-bidenu-1587603/

United Serbia as organization https://www.telegraf.rs/english/3223373-help-your-country-serbia-in-the-fight-for-truth-palma-sends-a-message-to-serbs-in-america

Add Per-Willy Amundsen from Norway https://www.newsinenglish.no/2020/02/20/parliament-prefers-bernie-over-trump/

Remove Cheney, no endorsement in the given link

Remove senator Corker: the article is almost the opposite of an endorsement

 Already done P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 15:07, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

P,TO 19104, please look, corker is still there. Also Per-Willy Amundsen is not added yet. 2603:301B:2702:AE00:41E3:A46D:319E:FAEC (talk) 20:41, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done Sorry, when I looked at the Norway article, I initally thought that it was just about the parliment; definitely should have taken a closer look. Regarding the second change, Corker did say that he would vote for Trump; I'd say that's an endorsement. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:39, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

P,TO 19104, no worries on the Norway article. But one of us is misunderstanding the article with Corker. In the article, I see that Corker is out of politics and says nothing about his stance on Trump. It does say that former Tennessee governor Bill Haslam will vote for him. At least according to me. Please read it again and quote where you believe it says he will vote for Trump. Thank you 2603:301B:2702:AE00:41E3:A46D:319E:FAEC (talk) 23:27, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done You are correct - the person who must have inserted that into an article must have made the same mistake I did! P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 00:28, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

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additions

Add Finns Party, Conservative People's Party of Estonia and Alternative for Germany http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/28/us-election-global-reaction-polarized

 Not done: Are you sure that a mere wish for Trump to get better is an endorsement? P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 00:32, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Lindsey Graham

Hey, I was hear to mention this ad that appears to show Senator Graham's support for Joe Biden (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Xpwyd4aMM). The article cited on this page is from 2018 and looks to be out of date, so if there's no obligation, I would suggest switching him from this article to Joe Biden's. ~CJ Melon (talk) 18:26, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

CJ Melon, the video itself is recent but they added the words which Graham said in 2016 (or maybe even 2015). He used to be anti Trump but is not anymore and supports him. 2600:1002:B113:38BF:E4B8:B6B9:7CA6:B9F2 (talk) 20:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Hu Xijin

I'm surprised I have to say this, but this tweet from Hu Xijin (which the cited BBC source paraphrases) is quite obviously sarcastic. The propaganda operation, and Hu himself, has repeatedly mocked and criticised Trump. I removed him from the list but my edit was quickly reverted by Vinhson27. feminist (talk) | free Thailand 02:23, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2020

• Mike Cernovich
• Tim Pool
• Charlie Daniels
• Sully Erna
• Mark Kendall
• Audie Desbrow
• Tim "Ripper" Owens
• Paul Hogan
• Jim Brown
• Jimmy Dore
• Tom Araya
• Michael Sweet
• Stephen Pearcy
• Robb Flynn
• James Kottak
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If I'm correct, they want these people to be added to the list. 1+1=yes 12:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2020

In the celebrities, producers, and musicians tab add: [ [ Lila Morillo ] ], Venezuelan singer and actress. DXVALE1111 (talk) 04:03, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Add League of Conservative Voters

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Social media is not accepted as RS Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

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Doug Ford no longer supports Trump

The endorsement of Doug Ford, Premier of Ontario should no longer be listed. See these references. Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, Ford has reversed previous support for Trump and his previous endorsement can no longer be deemed valid. 2607:FEA8:5560:7B60:585F:F09C:71A5:D5A (talk) 16:09, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:17, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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Vladimir Putin does not endorse Trump

some lunatic posted that vladimir putin supports trump's re-election, this is not true the given source has an quote about from Putin asking his opinion on the investigation regards to collusion. the source itself NYMAG is one known for bias. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/vladimir-putin-endorses-trump-russia-reelection-2020.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.132.99.144 (talk) 21:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree, this is clearly not an endorsement of Trump by Vladimir Putin. Criticism of the impeachment proceedings by Putin in the article cited does not equal an endorsement. Jonathan Chait misleadingly titled his own article.Please remove the Putin endorsement from this list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Donald_Trump_2020_presidential_campaign_endorsements#Current_11. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/vladimir-putin-endorses-trump-russia-reelection-2020.html 76.11.64.214 (talk) 14:17, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1+1=yes (talk • contribs) 13:01, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Ok then, CHANGE the list of endorsements from one including Vladimir Putin's name TO a list of endorsements that does not include his name, based on the information I already provided above in my previous communication. 76.11.64.214 (talk)

 Not done: Moot and outdated Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

 Done I concur with User:68.132.99.144 that the source provided is quite weak in support of the claim and this also falls under WP:BLP. Melmann 22:44, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Should these be deleted?

First, Netanyahu should be removed. Last week he refused to condemn Joe Biden meaning that he has no interest in endorsing Trump. The current source doesn't even mention an endorsement from Netanyahu and just states that Netanyahu is thankful for Trump's support of Israel. Further, how are police unions that are independently notable and have less than 1,000 members notable? I think both of these should be removed. Pennsylvania2 (talk) 01:53, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Pennsylvania2, I can’t really comment on Netanyahu because I don’t know the situation nor do I know who he is. But since no one has commented on the police unions I think it’s safe to delete them. We don’t have every local actors guild and firefighters union that supports Biden. I think it’s safe to delete those who do not have their own article. Maybe keep those whose city has a page on the police, like Chicago, but definitely get rid of every state police union. It’s not needed. 2600:1002:B113:38BF:E4B8:B6B9:7CA6:B9F2 (talk) 20:55, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Here is an AP article about it: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told reporters that U.S. bipartisan support has been “one of the foundations of the American-Israeli alliance.” He then went on to say “that alliance has never been stronger” and praised a slew of steps taken by Trump in favor of Israel. That could be interpreted as an endorsement but idk. ImTheIP (talk) 02:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)