Talk:List of Fairy Tail characters

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edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for List of Fairy Tail characters:

  • Trim excessive plot details from character sections.
  • Expand reception section.
  • Peer review suggestions
  • Nominate for FLC when ready


Create "Fairy Tail (fictional guild)" page[edit]

I've been experimenting with how to shorten the page, and I've come to the conclusion that maybe we should split the Fairy Tail guild into its own article. I've been working on a draft with my sandbox based on articles like Order of the Phoenix (fictional organisation), Dumbledore's Army, and Hogwarts staff; basically, we keep the "main characters" (Natsu, Lucy, etc.) on the main page and put a Template:See also at the top of the section, while everyone currently under List of Fairy Tail characters#Members (as if Natsu, Lucy, etc. weren't members...) gets put on the new page. The problem: getting it to pass notability. If it's going to survive, it's going to need its own "Creation/conception" and "Reception" sections. Unless, of course, there's a rule saying that notability doesn't apply when making readable prose.

By the way, I'm working on reformatting and rewriting the rest of the page. I believe the "Other guilds and organizations" and "Other characters" layout is what's making it so big. I'm also considering bumping Laxus and Juvia up to "main character" level. User:Immblueversion (talk) 02:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Frankly, the creation and reception sections need more work and performing a split them without more development here would be borderline crufty. Hypothetically, if the parent list was well developed with the FT characters having substantial coverage especially in those sections, then a split may be a no-brainer. As the list stands right now, I don't believe its absolutely necessary to split since focus should be aimed at bringing this parent list back up to a modern featured standard and eventually declared so. You should probably ask the main project page for more opinions on the notability of fictional organizations. —KirtZMessage 17:13, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I would Oppose it, unless you have real world information on how it is notable enough for a stand alone article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 02:29, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Sentai Filmworks version of Fairy Tail[edit]

Is there going to be a Sentai Filmworks version of Fairy Tail? Really, did they acquired it?--Hongqilim (talk) 18:57, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

I think it was simply factual errors, which could be considered WP:VANDALISM. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:45, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Reevaluating some character importance, again[edit]

Hello. As Fairy Tail gets longer, characters previously not prominent enough to merit a section may eventually do so. Likewise, characters who were important enough in the past, may no longer be. I think we should reevaluate the status of the following characters. Feel free to bring up other characters as well. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

The Tri-men[edit]

The Tri-men and Ichiya were major characters in the Oración Seis but are minor characters in the Grand Magic Games arcs, and they have most recently appeared in the Alvarez Empire arc. Devoting a whole section to them seems too much, considering that Mermaid Heel and the Seven Kin of Purgatory are discussed in less detail. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:22, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Jura Neekis[edit]

Jura was another major player in the Oración Seis arc, but he continues to show up in the Grand Magic Games, Tartaros and now the Alvarez Empire. Is it important to get a section of his own? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:26, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

New consensus for characters[edit]

Hello. Now that 100 Years Quest is being serialized and that the main series is over, I think it's time to reevaluate importance for certain characters and add some new characters once again. Please state if the character should be kept, deleted, re-added or merged into another article/section. Please provide a detailed reason for why you believe this should happen. Film villains and characters should probably be moved to the appropriate article, but we'll see how that goes. If there are any characters you would want added to the list then feel free to add a section and put your vote. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:53, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Anna Heartfilia[edit]

  • Keep/Merge – I've been thinking Lucy's relatives could be all put under a "Heartfilia family" section, either all within a single paragraph, or each as subsections. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep/Merge – Per SubZeroSilver's reasoning. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:37, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Bora[edit]

  • Delete – I have yet to see an article worth its salt that gives a one-shot starter villain their own section, regardless of their importance in kicking off the plot of their respective series. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete – Per SubZeroSilver's reasoning with appropriate mentions in each section. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:37, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Duke Cream[edit]

Éclair[edit]

  • Keep in film article – She's the titular character of Phoenix Priestess and, as such, we should still mention her in the film article. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Faust[edit]

  • Merge – His existing mention in the section of Edolas characters feels sufficient for a relatively minor side villain such as himself. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Merge – Per SubZeroSilver's reasoning. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:36, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Jude Heartfilia[edit]

  • Keep/Merge – Per reasonings by SubZeroSilver regarding a merger into the Heartfilia family. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Juvia Lockser[edit]

  • Keep – She serves as a major antagonist of Phantom Lord who easily defeats Lucy and makes several recurring appearances throughout the series when she is defeated by Gray. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:50, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Kashima[edit]

  • Delete – It's far too early to evaluate his overall importance to the sequel's plot. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Delete – We should wait until the storyline is expanded upon. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Kyria[edit]

Layla Heartfilia[edit]

  • Keep/Merge – While she played a very minor role at the start of the series, Layla plays a more prominent role in the Alvarez Empire arc, in which she sacrifices herself to allow the Dragon Slayers from 400 years in the past come to the present. However, I agree that it may be merged into a Heartfilia family section. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:03, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep/Merge – Same as Anna. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Lyon Vastia[edit]

  • Keep – He's the main antagonist for the Galuna Island arc who sides with the protagonists to fight the Oración Seis and participates in the Grand Magic Games. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:42, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Momon[edit]

Polryusica[edit]

Sherria Blendy[edit]

  • Keep/Merge – I'm of two minds about this as she receives a bit of development, but I fear that giving her a section of her own could potentially open the floodgates for even more characters that would make the article more overstuffed. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Keep/Merge – Per SubZeroSilver's reasoning. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:35, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Sorano Agria[edit]

  • Merge – Despite her changing guilds multiple times and receiving a slightly larger degree of development than the others of her guild, that doesn't make her much more substantially important. It's like giving Hoteye his own section because he's the only one to switch sides at first. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 02:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
  • Merge – Per SubZeroSilver's reasoning and move to Saber Tooth's section for good measure. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Touka[edit]

  • Unsure – This is a weird position. While she's being built as a significant character in the sequel, it still feels too soon to add anything, mainly because the sequel hasn't received much notability apart from the fact that it exists. User:SubZeroSilver (talk)

Yukino Agria[edit]

How should we approach the summaries?[edit]

So, in the past we used various character lists like List of One Piece characters (a B-Class) and List of Naruto characters (a FL) as a reference. Of course, while we're trying to avoid plot summaries for characters per WP:NOTPLOT, limited amounts of plot are acceptable, even necessary, and we give plot information as we see fit; for example, some power-ups and upgrades, as well as important plot information like their deaths, can be mentioned after certain time-skips.

While I'm trying to rewrite and trim down plot summaries to explain readers who are unfamiliar with works in general, I'm concerned about trying to rewrite them to make it flow like listing the plot summaries for the characters in chronological order, Lisanna's assumed death in Mirajane's section (we should mention that Lisanna disappears), as well as adding "at some point" in some of the summaries for the Fairy Tail guild members in general. I'm also concerned about merging citations for summaries like how they upgrade their powers.

Rather than edit warring (which is forbidden), I'm taking the discussion route to get some ideas on how should we approach writing the summaries for certain characters like those featured in List of Tokyo Mew Mew characters, List of Dragon Ball characters, or even List of D.Gray-man characters; all of which are FLs. Any thoughts? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree that a degree of plot summary is unavoidable in several cases, but I feel that the descriptions have been veering towards nothing but plot summary by describing how characters become who they are at the start of the narrative, without specifying where their role in the narrative actually begins. It's like more of the focus of this article as it stands is how the plot and story affect the characters, as if getting strung along by the plot is all they're used for. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 13:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Also, going back to the use of fictional present tense, fiction naturally should be predominantly written in present tense where applicable (e.g., "When Mirajane is seventeen" over "When Mirajane was seventeen"). But when it comes to describing "past" events, then so long as it's relative to what is happening in the "present" being described in that sentence, it is appropriate to use other tenses wherever necessary (e.g., "Kagura remembers how Erza saved her life when they were children" over "Kagura remembers how Erza saves her life when they are children"; the act of a character remembering a past event is what roots the sentence in the fictional present). That's why we use phrases like "in a flashback" and "in the present", or "when X is Y years old", to describe how past events are being conveyed to readers and audiences, thereby allowing past events to be written in present tense without appearing contradictory or awkward. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
The Tokyo Mew Mew page directly mentions volumes in the series in describing character introductions and events (e.g., "Deep Blue does not appear until the end of the sixth volume of the manga"). Much like how several other non-animanga GL and FL reference separate films, episodes, or seasons, this would work wonders in taking us out of thinking in an in-universe mindset like referencing "this event happens X years later" without providing a reference point for readers of where that actually happens within the series (i.e. "at the end of the series" instead of "one year after Acnologia's defeat"). User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 18:19, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
One other thing: we shouldn't go too overboard with the whole "volume" thing, just using in ways that would be significant. Zeref, for example, has large gaps between his first mention, his physical appearance, and the revelation of his identity, so the mention of volumes would be appropriate. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 19:45, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Looking at the other articles, it's fine if details aren't strictly done in chronological order when it comes to revelations of characters' pasts done much later in the series, as it shows how they are utilized as devices in the story. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 22:20, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

I would say only leave character defining moments that mark his characterization like maturity, common traits or abilities (I'm not familiar with this series). Also, I would suggest using Characters of the Final Fantasy XIII series as a model because there is a good balance between in-universe and out-of-universe information in each character. The reception section could also be divided. It could be one paragraph of of their response, one about designs, and one about the voice actors.Tintor2 (talk) 22:43, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
Maybe we can write "Before the beginning of the series...", "Before meeting Lucy", etc.? There was a relevant discussion on how we should handle the tense on the One Piece character page not long ago. As we know, there is no present, no past and no future. We can write in what order things occur, but we can't treat any point in the series' timeline as "the present". Try to put it this way: In front of every sentence, it says something like "in Volume X, Y does Z". Just that these bits aren't written out and instead placed at the end of the sentence in form of citations. Mentioning certain events that happen in a "flashback" such as "In chapter X, during a flashback, Y does Z" are unimportant.
When writing summaries for flashback episodes as what Goodraise pointed out in that discussion, we wouldn't do it in past tense either. While reading a flashback, the flashback's present is the present for the reader. For example: Erza losing her eye and escaping the Tower of Heaven occurs as a flashback in both the anime and manga. In this case, we would write it in the present tense. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:15, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
That's what I said about tense above. The way I see it, past tense should only be used when it's relative to a present action, and only when there's no convenient or unconvoluted workaround. For instance: "X fights Y because Y killed Z." User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 23:45, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I know. I would also agree with Tintor2's idea, using Characters of Final Fantasy XII list as additional references, in addition to the ones I've mentioned above. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:48, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Sherria's singing voice[edit]

Since this matter is already devolving into an edit war, I want to reach a final conclusion so we can put it to rest. Sherria has been verified to have a separate voice for her single singing appearance in episode 278, which would seem to be the only scene in the entire series in which Sherria sings. Because of this, I find it to be very circumstantial casting much like "young" versions of characters, whose actors are not listed here, which is why I feel the singing voice can be left out. How does anyone else feel about this? User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 17:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)