Talk:List of Soviet and Eastern Bloc defectors
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Lack of any perceived order in the list
Why is this haphazard list arranged neither chronologically nor alphabetically (in either the order of Latin or Russian alphabets)?
- True.Nerissa-Marie (talk) 23:56, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
What about Lee Harvey Oswald? He was the most famous of this list by far. He was originally an American defector, but then he defected back. He is the only one I am aware of to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Goleniewski was not working for polish military intelligence!!!! For some time he was deputy of Main Directorate of Information, witch was from 1944-57 military counterintelligence. A lot mastakes was made cose the name of the MDI/GZI.
At the time of his defection Goleniewski was worning for Interior Ministry in First Department (foreign intelligence) he was chead of Section VI wich was responseble for economic, scientific and technological espionage --MX (talk) 14:19, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
KGB = Soviet CIA. In the early 1960s, I was tenor soloist with the Cornell U. Glee Club and we had an engagement in the USSR, primarily Moscow and Leningrad. There were over 50 of us and (I learned later) 5 KGB agents had been assigned to look after us, surreptitiously.
I walked around Moscow, unaccompanied (I thought), and encountered one young, English-speaking male who invited me to his family home for dinner. It was pleasant. The young man interpreted for all of us. I returned, late, to our hotel.
Early in the AM I went downstairs for breakfast. A gentleman came over to me and whispered in my ear to the effect that he was a KGB agent assigned to follow me and had lost me last evening. He asked that I not tell anyone as he would be thrown into the gulag (prison) for failure to perform his duties. He was serious and I smothered a laugh.
I had enlisted as a private in the U.S. Army for 3 years in the latter 1950s. Although I played a quite minor role, my army branch was affiliated with US intelligence functions and it appeared that the Soviets had run thorough background checks on all of us, else I cannot imagine why Soviet intelligence would assign an agent to follow an American farm boy, singing with his college glee club.
Hopefully, that youngish man's error was not discovered. I guess that I now understand the paranoia of the time, and am pleased no end that US-Soviet antipathies seem to be forgotten in a remote past. I also suspect that many KGB people who were exposed to the citizenry of other countries (and, in some instances, to the actual countries)were tempted to defect. As open-minded as I appear to be, I can imagine staying in the USSR (as contrasted with any Western country) only because of a wish to remain physically close to family.
Break across 1944
- I agree. There is no particular reason to create a cutoff at 1944. Also, it would help if this whole list were rearranged chronologically (by year) and then alphabetically (by surname). Zloyvolsheb (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Should Liliana Gasinskaya be added
See http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikini-girl-who-made-a-splash-20091231-ll1h.html 18 July 2013 Jswd (talk) 09:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Some east germans should be added
Thomas Kretschmann (actor) http://www.tv.com/people/thomas-kretschmann/biography/ Richard Z. Kruspe (musician) http://www.mtv.com/artists/richard-z-kruspe/biography/
Should Ivan Lendl be added? He was born in Czechoslovakia and played under the Czechoslovakian flag until 1992 when he decided to play under the USA flag.Perfectamundo (talk) 22:16, 10 February 2015 (UTC)