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What are Onion Services?

If "Onion services are services that can only be accessed over Tor",[1] then this list is misleading or erroneous, because many of the listed websites can also be accessed with ordinary browsers, not over Tor; or using Tor browser without the .onion? Also, .onion is still only a desktop browser thing; should browsing versus other program access, or desktop versus mobile be separate categories? A list of sites that block or restrict access over Tor, like Wikipedia, could be more informative. Lastly, sites like NY Times paywall blocks access anyway, so should "paying customers only" be another category? -- Yae4 (talk) 13:42, 26 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, you’re misreading the statement that “Onion services can only be accessed over Tor”. It means that Onion addresses only work this way. One might now argue that the sentence on the page you linked to should be extended with “, unless they are also made available via an alternative URL not ending in .onion”, but I would not regard that alternative access point as part of the Onion service and frankly, it would never have occurred to me that such a misunderstanding would be likely. It is possible to overload texts with information that is rarely needed but takes up enough space to make the core message harder to find. This is both subjective and speculative, I know, but it is my honest opinion. Also, it is very untrue that “.onion is still only a desktop browser thing” – Tor Browser has been available for Android for years, and for iOS there is at least this. SeL (talk) 14:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some way of finding the .onion addresses seems to be missing

I know that there are probably several sections in WP:NOT that would count against this (such as “not a repository of links” or “no original research”), but to me there is little use in this article unless it could help people to actually find the .onion addresses for the sites listed. This could be done either by including the addresses in the article or by pointing to some other link list or even search engine that would help. It seems strange to maintain a list that is defined by the existence of a certain URL for each entry but to not state what these URLs are or how to find them. Mentioning the URL could even be regarded as necessary proof that an entry actually deserves to be included. What do you think? SeL (talk) 14:40, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As you correctly mention, we don't make lists of external links on Wikipedia, it is off-mission for us. Even if we were inclined to provide links, there's no real way to vet them as legitimate - we could end up sending vulnerable folks to mirrors run by hostile entities. I could be persuaded that we should delete this list altogether, though. MrOllie (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We maintain lots of lists of Wikipedia articles for navigational purposes. This is one. It's not a Dark Web Portal but a list of the information we have about various Tor hidden services. We don't typically include onion links for a number of reasons. One is that many of them host illegal material, and it's not legal to knowingly link to such sites. Another reason is that unlike the clear web, there's no official registry that ties a domain to a particular service. The links change, get hijacked, and there are a whole lot of scams. That would require more vigilance on our part than we can realistically hope for, and the potential cost is too great. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:50, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Many of the items in the list have their links in wikidata. Wikidata entries with ".onion" links have been verified by me as much as possible and referenced in the wikidata reference. Sources include: clear net site blog post, secondary reliable source, or link to clearnet site which redirects to onion site if accessed with tor browser. Example: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q13515725 Greatder (talk) 09:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your answers. On reflection, I agree that this article is not a good case for an exception to the rule on link lists. SeL (talk) 01:23, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HackThisSite

I don't know what category it would go into but HackThisSite has a .onion domain listed on its top bar. VintageVernacular (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Give me some money for buy for a laptop to teach for hacking course

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