Talk:List of adjectivals and demonyms of astronomical bodies

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List[edit]

Someone has had a lot of fun making up non-existent adjectival forms for the small moons and asteroids, but they don't belong in an encyclopedia. We should be listing forms that people actually use. If anyone has ever used the word "Trinculonian" outside Wikipedia, I will eat my shoe. Sources please, or I will return with a flamethrower! Arsia Mons (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the ones in italics are unattested. That said, a form like Daphnidian is useful; the average reader would have no idea that a regular derivation of Daphnis would have a second d in it. Derivations of Old Norse and Inuit are iffier.
Some of the others have limited use; I was surprised to find just now that Mimantean is used at the JPL Cassini site. It took a special trip to the library a few years ago for me to find that word, and perhaps due to WP, it looks like it's now caught on outside Greek concordances. — kwami (talk) 01:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Actually, the majority of the Classical names have adj. forms, though not always the ones here. So too many of the Shakespearean/Popean ones. I've deleted all italicized names I couldn't find in Google Books. Umbrielian only comes up once, on a page that is unavailable, so I've italicized it. Italicized some other rare forms, though 'rare' is rather arbitrary. — kwami (talk) 07:57, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Great work, but it would still be good to add references to show where the information actually comes from, if possible. That way we can be surer that these are real words and that they are actually used. Otherwise we're just going on good faith... Arsia Mons (talk) 13:49, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, that was more work than I wanted to do at 2 AM. The remaining adj. can be found easily enough, though granted, a couple hits might turn out to be inappropriate as refs if I were to dig deeper. Also, I didn't review all the adj. that were not in italics at the time, so they should be verified as well. I'd say add a ref for any new words going forward, and eventually we can work back through the existing ones. — kwami (talk) 18:10, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm starting to add refs. Some have better refs in the individual article talk pages, but I'm not searching those. I'm leaving a few blank, as it's too much trouble to sort through other uses of the word. E.g. 'Thebe' is an alt. form of 'Thebes', but finding the adj. specifically for the rarer 'Thebe' is a chore. ("the city's name was changed to Thebes in honor of Thebe, ... In keeping with Theban custom ...") Thankfully I had already ref'd 'Ionian' for Io rather than Ionia a few years ago.
I'm picking refs almost at random. In cases where the ref turns out to be bad, there may well be others, so the word itself shouldn't be tossed w/o checking further. — kwami (talk) 02:14, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Awesome work! Arsia Mons (talk) 00:52, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

other notable planetoids[edit]

Vanth (Orcus I): Vanthian?
10199 Chariklo: ? (fem. 'Chariclean')
451 Patientia (exp: patientian)
532 Herculina (exp: herculinian)
19 Fortuna: ?
54598 Bienor (expected Bienorian or Bianorian)
702 Alauda: Alaudan?
5145 Pholus: pholian? pholusian?[1]
8 Flora: Floral, ?Florian
90 Antiope: ?
288 Glauke Glaucian?
323 Brucia
490 Veritas
10370 Hylonome || (exp: Hylonomean)
8405 Asbolus || Asbolean?
| 172 Baucis ||Baucidian?
| 655 Briseïs ||Briseidian?
| 627 Charis ||Charitian?
| 410 Chloris ||Chloridian?
| 202 Chryseïs ||Chryseidian?Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

Wiktionary[edit]

if this isn't on Wiktionary, someone should copy it there. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 08:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

This list begins with explanatory information beyond the basic list information usually found in Wiktionary. I found exactly one list of demonyms in English Wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:French_demonyms. -- Wavelength (talk) 15:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
You should examine how much prose is in some of those Wiktionary appendices, sometimes there is alot, like with wikt:Appendix:Numbers 76.66.193.224 (talk) 06:56, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I copied less obvious ones, and also the ones of the larger moons, but to individual articles. — kwami (talk) 08:09, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Capitalization of earthly and lunar[edit]

User:Wavelength edited Earthly in the table to earthly. When I put earthly into the list I capitalized it to conform with the capitalization of Lunar, which indicated to me that entries in the list should all be capitalized whether they are routinely capitalized in ordinary writing or not. Either lunar should be written with a small initial letter or earthly should be capitalized to be consistent. Which should it be? --Fartherred (talk) 04:23, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Both words should be uncapitalized (earthly and lunar).—Wavelength (talk) 05:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Probably either could be capitalized to emphasize that they're referring to the worlds rather than having their more commonplace meanings, but usually they're both uncapitalized. — kwami (talk) 05:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
As I take stock of the discussion so far, it seems that kwami has no strong objection to lower case initials for both and Wavelength definitely favors lower case. I also favor lower case and, since we are determining the style of the box rather than following the style, I will put lunar in lower case as an interim condition pending further discussion. --Fartherred (talk) 14:53, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Now we come to the case of capitalizing moon and making it a name for Earth's moon. Both the capitalization of moon and the importation of Luna from Latin to serve as the name of Earth's moon are modern inventions. In Shakespeare's works moon was not capitalized. Diana, Cotys, Cynthia, Hecate, Lat, Luna, Minerva and Selene are potential names for Earth's moon. Each of these was at some time a goddess in some way associated with the moon. The ancient Europeans were apparently fond of making the moon a goddess. For my part I would be happy to call Earth's moon anything, including Lateforsupper, if only people would agree to give it a name other than Moon. I have occasion to refer to Luna with respect to planets and asteroids in the case of potential future economic development. I would rather avoid confusing Moon with the moon of some other planet. However, it seems against policy for Wikipedia to take up my cause and promote Luna as a name for Earth's moon. So we are stuck with a capitalized Moon in the box as best representing current practice. --Fartherred (talk) 16:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Herculinan?[edit]

Earthican[edit]

I think Earthican should be added as a demonym for Earth. It's what Earthlings are called in the year 3000, according to Futurama. I feel like that show is iconic enough to add a word to the lexicon. Tomjoad187 (talk) 01:21, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

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