Talk:List of dry communities by U.S. state

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Edit Massachusetts 2010-11-23[edit]

My recent edit was reverted. I added some tags, they were reverted, I re-added them.

The undefinded term "moist" was used. It's used elsewhere in the document, but the context in the Massachusetts section is different, so the term is undefined. I added a tag requesting clarification.

The time "three years ago" was used. With no indication of when the phrase was added, this reference is not appropriate, and I added a "[when?]" tag, which is appropriate.

The whole Rockport paragraph doesn't even align with the docuemnt title. It's not supposed to be a detailed listing, by town, of how and why towns are NOT dry. And there is no supporting reference for the info ... it's almost certainly original research.

So I should have deleted the whole paragraph ... but I just added some tags, and they were inappropriately deleted.

Arizona: Navajo Nation[edit]

The Navajo Nation prohibits the sale of alcohol, and tribal police enforce it. I'm having difficulty finding clear documents about it online, but I think this should be noted. Ben Atkin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:21, 1 June 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Seconded. Neither the Hopi or the Navajo reservations in Arizona allow alcohol (not even the possession). Seeing as this accounts for a very large section of Arizona, the article should probably be updated (as well as the graph as it accounts for the better parks of multiple counties). 2601:C:AB80:3D1:BE5F:F4FF:FE35:1B41 (talk) 13:09, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Utah[edit]

Utah seems to be missing. I spent a week in Blanding a few years ago and it was dry. I'm pretty sure there are other dry communities in Utah.Bill (talk) 22:48, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I added 9 dry Utah cities (including Blanding) to the list according to a 2018 Salt Lake Tribune article. There are several more small communities on the Navajo Nation which also are dry (due to Navajo Nation law) but the Tribune article covered most of the large communities. Baltakatei (talk) 07:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pennsylvania[edit]

From the page: "Beer, wine and spirits are available for on-premises consumption at bars, taverns and restaurants; no single bottles or cans can be sold to drink off premises. Every bar, tavern and restaurant must purchase a state-issued "liquor license" to be legally permitted to serve alcohol."

Either this is wrong or many of the bars/restaurants where I live (suburbs around Pittsburgh) are in violation of the law. Tons of bars allow you to buy single bottles or cans (often larger sized than regular 12oz cans) that are not apart of a 6-pack to-go. 24.131.27.231 (talk) 18:50, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've also seen alcoholic beer for sale (with some restrictions) in a Giant Eagle shop. Perhaps some of these laws have been reformed since the writing of that section? 173.75.131.22 (talk) 22:20, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

The map seems to be so inaccurate that it's basically useless. In Alabama, for example, the article says there are three dry counties and 23 partially dry, but the map shows 24 dry counties and no partially dry counties. Plus, I know for a fact that you can buy any kind of alcohol in Birmingham, yet Jefferson county is shown as dry on the map. This page needs a lot of work if someone out there is ambitious enough to take on the project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.45.189.235 (talk) 18:12, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Should this map not be replaced with Alcohol control in the United States.svg, which has more information and is also an svg file? 203.97.134.50 (talk) 04:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Louisiana and West Virginia[edit]

What's the deal with Louisiana and West Virginia? What's the meaning of the grey color? Rammer (talk) 05:29, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It means there's not enough information. I made the map, I had a couple sources but couldn't make out WV and Louisiana. Fry1989 eh? 05:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Texas[edit]

The number of counties in Texas is 254. The math is incorrect in the article. The sum of the three types of counties does not equal 254, but currently adds up to 251. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esbboston (talk • contribs) 00:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Even worse now

"Of Texas' 254 counties, 5 are completely dry, 196 are partially dry, and 55 are entirely wet"

Now, even I can do add them up to be 256... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.83.244.101 (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Texas has 254 counties. Texas has "local option" on alcohol sales. Many different styles of sale. The election may be held by an incorporated municipality or certain sections thereof, by full county jurisdiction or by Justice of the Peace precinct (although a city may opt out by election). Young County is a "Dry" county although, here it is not listed as such. Like several others,It has been referred to as the "wettest dry county in Texas". That may be because each of the three municipalities have held elections for alcohol sales that have passed by the eligible voters thereof (after several attempts). Also, several private clubs that do not have to be private anymore. However, the county jurisdiction (unincorporated area) remains dry. (from the technical stand point of Texas Law).
From a retired 32-year veteran of Young County's Governing Body. 96.46.210.40 (talk) 19:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Virginia[edit]

I see a number of counties marked dry that haven't been dry for some time, as indicated in theVirginia ABC report of 2011. Those counties are Appomattox, Campbell, Carroll, Dickenson, Franklin, Giles, Green, Halifax, King William, Louisa, Lunenburg, Mecklenburg, Montgomery, Pittsylvania, Pulaski, Scott, Smyth, Surry, Tazewell, Warren, Washington, Wise, and Wythe. Of course, even the counties described as "dry" in the report allow the sale of beer and wine in stores and restaurants, thereby making them "semi-dry" by this page's criteria (see page 24). If I knew how to alter the map, I'd gladly do it, but I don't edit stuff on here often enough. Artsygeek (talk) 04:35, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maryland[edit]

The town of Damascus, in Montgomery County, has been dry since the 1930's. On November 6, 2012, in a referendum, residents voted to end prohibition in Maryland's only dry locality. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43hellokitty21 (talk • contribs) 01:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC) [1][reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.gazette.net/article/20121106/NEWS/711069876/1022/damascus-votes-to-repeal-ban-on-alcohol-sales-after-nearly-80-year&template=gazette

New Jersey[edit]

The New Jersey section says there are 37 dry communities in that state, but only 17 are listed. —Al E.(talk) 20:04, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • That was fixed several weeks ago, we were awaiting an open public records request from the NJ Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control for the full list of communities. The previous incomplete version of the list was culled from news sources, the current list reflects the complete list from NJABC.--ColonelHenry (talk) 16:20, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of discrepancies[edit]

For example, it says that Oklahoma state doesn't allow for dry counties, but the map shows several dry counties. This, and all the other examples raised above should be addressed by a mod or professional editor. Terrorist96 (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Most of Michigan is listed as yellow, with no real indication as to what that means in the context of state law. Oak Park is the only restricted area I'm aware of that currently exists. Combined with the other protests of other users in other states, I'm convinced that this map is so misleading as to actually be counter-productive, and seems to have multiple standards for different states. Is having a restriction on 24 hour sale sufficient for yellow? Is a ban on a few days a year sufficient? This is effectively trash data. 2601:4:1003:A895:5175:5F84:F76E:DFD5 (talk) 07:43, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Georgia[edit]

This article says that Georgia has several dry and semi-dry counties. The map does not show any Georgia counties as being anything other than wet. This should be fixed. --Philpill691 (talk) 02:20, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This article states Bulloch County removed restrictions of alcohol sales in 1998. However, sales for off-premises consumption are restricted to "malt beverages and wine" (http://library.municode.com/HTML/12416/level3/PTIICOOR_CH3ALBE_ARTIILI.html). This should be reflected in a future update to the map as partially wet. Calador109 (talk) 02:14, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

South Dakota[edit]

The sentence "Taxes on alcohol consumed within the county go to other counties." reeks of politicization. This is logically consistent with purchasing any consumable in any tax district, and consuming it in another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.192.237.60 (talk) 01:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I second this and would not call it "politicization" but plain old racism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.190.87.159 (talk) 22:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit New Hampshire March 31 2017[edit]

The NH State Liquor Commission now lists only a single dry town according to the source that was already provided. I removed two other towns that were listed here. Based on this, I think that the line describing Shannon as the most recent town to go "wet" is no longer accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.0.135.147 (talk) 19:21, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Oregon Bars / Taverns that are beer or wine only[edit]

The article says "Oregon also has taverns that sell beer and wine only. " While that may technically be true since the owner of an establishment can sell what they want, I am fairly certain there are no laws in the state about that. My recollection is they were changed 10 or 20 years ago.

I can't find a citation for that so I didn't change the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeriousTube (talk • contribs) 14:05, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Terms used[edit]

I see words in quotes that do not appear to have a description, unless my eyes deceive me. I do make errors due to vision and senior moments. ;) In any case, I feel that quoted terms need a definition for the purpose of the article. An example is the difference between "damp" and "moist"? I like that it's not overly technical (that's a problem for much of Wikipedia) but there needs to be an explanation for those terms such as "dry county with a wet city" or "dry county that allows draft sales". Many thanks! MagnoliaSouth (talk) 14:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC) MagnoliaSouth (talk) 14:20, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Navajo Nation[edit]

This map is missing the entirety of Navajo Nation which is dry by law and covers a large portion of Arizona, New Mexico, and Utah. 136.175.158.2 (talk) 22:11, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

See Nonexistent Overview[edit]

In the South Holland section of Illinois it says “In accordance with the state liquor law (see overview),” but there is no Illinois overview section. 71.236.206.225 (talk) 14:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Map[edit]

I think that it is time to update this map as it is very much out of date. Tom950 Tom950 (talk) 21:28, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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