Talk:List of building and structure collapses

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Airline disasters in list[edit]

Why are there so many airline disasters listed under "Structural failures" ?

Eg: TWA Flight 800, BOAC Flight 781 - both mid air explosions.

Should airline disasters at all mentioned in this list? Under "structural failures and collapses" one associate collapses of bridges, buildings, towers, masts, etc., but no plane crashes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.206.211 (talk) 14:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps there are different reasons for an airplane to, say, explode in mid-air, and ones related to structural problems as opposed to chemical or other problems would, I'd say, count as a "structural" failure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.7.35 (talk) 14:45, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two separate lists[edit]

Why not two separate lists, one for fixed structures, the other for vehicles?

Once the kist gets "too long", then split it. Tabletop (talk) 03:13, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tunnel collapses[edit]

Tunnel/ excavated structures are missing, eg Gerards Cross and Nicoll Highway collapse (both have entries in wikipedia). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.196.187 (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ghana supermarket[edit]

In November 2012, a Ghanan supermarket building collapsed, killing about 15.

See: Collapse

Tabletop (talk) 03:11, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

sections[edit]

I divided the list of building failures into date ranges, to make it more easily editable. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 03:59, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Monfragüe dam disaster, Spain, 1959[edit]

[1] (Number of victims, name of place are different.) --2A02:908:EB20:3E00:B59D:33AB:97B4:1834 (talk) 05:06, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unresolved 2009 Template "appears to contradict the article List of bridge failures."[edit]

Why has this (June 2009) taken so long to resolve? Problems with other articles have been resolved almost instantly in comparison. By now, either the problem has been slowly resolved to an extent worth removing the template, or if it is unresolvable, the article should be deleted. 60.242.247.177 (talk) 22:53, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If everything listed in the list of bridge failures article is in this article, then that article should be deleted. ChieftanTartarus (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done As per WP:BOLD I took steps to resolve this issue, I blanked the page relating to List of bridge failures and redirected it here, as it was simply duplicating this page, there was never any contradiction. ChieftanTartarus (talk) 15:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Split Article[edit]

  • Split I am totally confused as to how anyone can navigate this list in its current state after spending around 60 minutes looking through it today. I believe we should go ahead with the split proposal to deal with how disorganised this page is. Following the split, I believe that this page should be deleted or act as a place to navigate to the other lists (perhaps renamed to Lists of structural failures and collapses). The 'transportation' section should simply be split into their relevant accident lists for each type of transport. Chieftain Tartarus (talk) 10:59, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - Okay, I see what you mean. This article should be one big table, not separate tables per arbitrary time periods, sortable by structure type. That's how I'd do it, anyway. BTW, I'm not lily white either, as I just took a short article on Y-Bridge and redirected it to an existing article similarly to what you did. My apologies. - Denimadept (talk) 11:21, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - I just took another look at the article. They've already got a structure type column, and the tables are sortable, so the only change I'd make is to merge all the tables I've noticed so far. - Denimadept (talk) 11:24, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment – Primarily, this "general" list should be compared with more specialized lists and what is missing there, should be complemented. As regards this general list, we can choose from several possibilities:
1) this list will stay generall and contain all failures and collapses as a summary overview (while the specialized lists will contain more detailed infos about specific incidents) – ie. status quo, but its sorting needs to be solved, or
2) this list will contain only the remaining cases which cann't be moved to specialized lists, or
3) the whole content will be sorted to specialized lists out.
IMHO this list is aimed to extensively. Failures of vehicles, machines or tanks need not to be mixed with failures (collapses) of buildings, bridges or masts. I support to seperate the content (step by step) by type of structure/device. This list can be reduced to building failures, and other types can be moved to existing or new specalized lists. The first step can be to move all information about bridges, dams, radio masts and aircraft to the existing lists. However, to keep this list as general overview is also not a defect. --ŠJů (talk) 18:38, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support split the transportation lists into separate articles, such as aircraft structural failures. Gorden 2211 (talk) 06:23, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This needs some inclusion criteria[edit]

This article needs some inclusion criteria for notability, or every time someones garden gazebo collapses would be included. I propose we limit it to collapses which have:

  • At least one fatality, or
  • At least one injury and national press coverage

Thoughts? --Gerrit CUTEDH 18:46, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I came across of Destruction of al-Jalaa Building, which is included in this list... But this particular building was destroyed by a military strike and no casualties were reported. We need to have some inclusion criteria! Kolma8 (talk) 15:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I would suggest one fatality OR the structure already having a standalone Wikipedia article. And agree that it should exclude non-structural collapses as per the article title. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest a notable structure, its very own Wikipedia article, and/or deaths of 10 or more people. Borgenland (talk) 20:21, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Berlin, Germany, 21st of May 1980, Kongresshalle, 1 casualty[edit]

See german wikipedia https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kongresshalle_(Berlin)#Einsturz_des_Außendachs93.209.90.46 (talk) 21:42, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

wilson bridge[edit]

the wilson bridge in tours, france collapsed in april 1978. there were no injured as the last car just managed to pass the bridge before the collapse. for several months the city was divided as this was one of few bridges over the river loire. there are few english sources for this but several French, should it be included? if so I could look up suitable sources. 84.215.194.30 (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pentagon[edit]

The Pentagon's west wing collapsed on 9/11/01, killing 184 and injuring 106 others. 2603:6000:8740:54B1:5C62:6332:F746:B663 (talk) 23:01, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 9 September 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. UtherSRG (talk) 15:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

List of structural failures and collapses → List of building and structure collapses – To align with associated categories, including a proposed rename at CfD for the associated Category:Building collapses. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:44, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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