Talk:LittleBigPlanet (2008 video game)

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Good articleLittleBigPlanet (2008 video game) has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 17, 2008Good article nomineeListed
November 10, 2015Good article reassessmentDelisted
March 13, 2022Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 10, 2022.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that LittleBigPlanet, a video game that allows the player to create levels, coincided with the rise of user-generated content?
Current status: Good article

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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 12:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I'll take this on. If I'm not back in a week, ping me. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lazman321:, a couple of things I noticed first, one small and one large. I'll probably get back with a more detailed review in a couple of days. --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:21, 11 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ProtoDrakePlease sign your notices, Its difficult to reply to specific ones. PerryPerryD 01:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ProtoDrake: I believe I have addressed your initial concerns. Lazman321 (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Not done: The purpose of red links is to indicate topics that could have valid articles, and the only reason to remove a red link is if the topic shouldn't have an article. Both good articles and featured articles allow red links when they are valid. Boulevard de l'Independance has been reviewed by Stylus Magazine,[1] Exclaim!,[2] The Guardian,[3], BBC,[4], The Independent,[5] and The Times.[6] It is often mentioned in context of Toumani Diabate,[7][8] was #57 on Paste Magazine's best albums of 2006 list,[9] and it won "Album of the Year" in BBC's Awards for World Music.[10] All that, along with the "Tapha Niang" controversy mentioned in the article for LittleBigPlanet is evidence for the notability of this album. There's no reason to remove the red link. Lazman321 (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reception section overall uses far too many quotes to be comfortable reading.
    • Also, this sentence: "The creative aspect of LittleBigPlanet has been widely praised by critics,[7] though some critics have noted how it takes patience to create a great level.[3][133]". Maybe find a paraphrase for "critics" in one instance to avoid repetition.
  •  Done: Removed the second instance of "critics". Lazman321 (talk) 05:45, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In this specific instance, simply removing the 2nd "critics' would be a good enough change here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PerryPerryD (talk • contribs) 01:53, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Full review[edit]

This is going to be a lot of little things more than anything.

Lead
  • "...platform game developed by British developer Media Molecule..." - Does the developer's location matter? Also having "developed" and "developer" so close together is repetitious.
  • "The player plays as Sackboy..." - Same problem as above, repetition.
  •  Done: Replaced "The player plays as" with "The player character is". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • " While initially, sales dwindled in 2008, LittleBigPlanet ultimately became commercially successful after 2009, reaching four million sales by 2018." - This feels like two types of sentences were stitched together with commas. Is there a way of rewriting this bit?
  •  Done: Rewrote sentence for better flow. Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Gameplay
  • How is Stephan Fry's contribution to the narrated tutorials part of gameplay?
  •  Done: Removed "narrated by Stephen Fry". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Synopsis
  • "LittleBigPlanet is set on a planet called LittleBigPlanet" - Maybe "planet of the same name" or "titular planet" would be better to avoid rapid-fire repetition.
  •  Done: Replaced "a planet call LittleBigPlanet" with "the titular planet". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This isn't a point that technically holds the article back, but the plot's a real slog considering its contents.
  •  Done: Significantly cut down the plot section. Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Development
  • "they had only had a vague idea of what they game they wanted to create" - Replace with something like "they only had a vague of idea of what to create" or "they only had a vague idea of what game they wanted to create".
  • "They wanted to create an ambitious console-friendly game that utilised user-generated content, appealed to a broad audience, and proved that a small company could create a mainstream game." - Too many creates.
  •  Done: Replaced the second "create" with "develop". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The entire second paragraph is replete with "They". Is there a way of paraphrasing or similar?
  •  Done: Replaced a few instances of "they" with either "Media Molecule" or "The company". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • "they realised just how much backing Sony was devoted to the game" - Either "they realised just how much Sony was devoted to the game" or "they realised just how much backing Sony was giving the game", or something similar here.
  • "Healey relates that although the revelation of Sony's faith in the game boosted their confidence, additionally, it increased the pressure on them with the realisation that their task had become much greater than originally anticipated." - This sentence reads very awkwardly. Maybe a rewrite for clarity and flow.
  •  Done: Removed ", additionally," and separated it into two sentences. Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Design
  • "Healey served as the creative director, Ettouney served as the art director, and Evans and Smith served as the technical directors." - Repetition of "served".
  •  Done: Replaced "served as" with either "was" or "were". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Release
  • "Around May 2007, a demo of LittleBigPlanet was rumoured to be planned.[63]" - Think you should just say "rumoured", as saying there was a rumour of a plan sounds superfluous.
  • "Over the years, LittleBigPlanet and the franchise it spawned has garnered a large amount of DLC." - Is garnered the right word for DLC? I've only really seen it used for awards before.
  •  Done: Replaced "garnered" with "gather". Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@PerryPerryD and Lazman321: That's it. Mostly a lot of word repetition, and a few bits that seem left over from a blending of different rewrites. I think I'll put the article on hold for now. (Hope this ping reaches you this time.) --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:05, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ProtoDrake: I have done all your requests. Lazman321 (talk) 02:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lazman321: Pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:53, 13 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Z1720 (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by Lazman321 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: Far too much of the article dwells on the removal of the song. It is mentioned in the Lede, Release and Audio, with references 45-50, 82-84. I recommend removing the content from the lead, and at most 2-3 refs in Release to explain why the launch was briefly delayed for CD swap. Does not need to be in Audio because the song ended up not being in the product being sold. Should not be the DYK. David notMD (talk) 11:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • On the contrary, the amount of coverage the "Tapha Niang" controversy has in this article is proportionate to how important it is to the topic. It received much coverage in both the video game journalism media and British media; it resulted in a worldwide recall of the game and the delay of its release; and it was the only major controversy that LittleBigPlanet was a part of, at least until the server issues of 2021 and subsequent takedown. Also, the song itself was not removed from the game; only the lyrics were. Even if the song was removed, the song would still warrant mention in the music subsection because it was the most discussed aspect of the in-game music. I do think it would be interesting enough for DYK, though I can add one more DYK nomination. Lazman321 (talk) 00:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I agree with Lazman321, the time spent on the song controversy is appropriate. Review—
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nonetheless, to meet the concerns of David notMD, the approved hook is ALT2. Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 13:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Promote ALT2 to Prep 7. I think the article has the appropriate amount of text for the song controversy, and the hook referring to its removal is not used as the hook. Z1720 (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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