Talk:Margaret Gardner

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Copyright and peacock words[edit]

I note most of this text is directly plagiarised from an RMIT media release, and uploaded from an RMIT IP address... Needs scrutiny, editing and references. See hamiltonstone (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The link doesn't work GSPT1 (talk) 07:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


Just a question: As she is the wife of Prof. Glyn Davis, why isn't she addressed as Mrs. David as per the tradition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Because it isn't a tradition, it's a decision each married person makes. She chose not to take his surname. cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 12:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Besides which, calling her "Mrs. David" would be very confusing considering that:
  • she's married to Prof. Glyn Davis;
  • she has a Ph.D. that entitles her to be addressed as "Dr." (as a minimum) for life, while her current position apparently entitles her to be addressed as "Prof." while in this role.
Nevertheless I disagree with hamiltonstone — there is indeed a "tradition" ...but it is not a universally observed tradition (especially in current times), and it is not the only tradition.
—DIV ( (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC))


The Islamic room thing was an Internal RMIT issue. I hardly think its at all appropriate to assume that Margaret herself was wholly responsible and is therefore Islamophobic. If its that much of an issue it should be on an RMIT page, not here. The reference used doesn't even mention Margaret Gardner at all. GSPT1 (talk) 04:58, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

I think this is too extreme for wikipedia... shouldn't a balanced view be presented if necessary. I tend to agree that this is not really necessary to put here... and if it was put it should be reword! see,21985,24491394-2862,00.html. --Cferart (talk) 05:05, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Remove paragraph as it seems to be part of a student campaign and more appropriate forums for this elsewhere. Wikipedia is not the place for "allegations" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cferart (talkcontribs) 01:15, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I will be removing this material and looking at relocating it to the RMIT page. It is inappropriate here, particularly as it is unrelated to Gardner as an individual - her only connection is as VC, and would only be notable with regard to her if she had made notable, third-party referenced interventions that went beyond her administrative role as VC. As far as I can see, they don't. regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:26, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this is a page about a person, there are always student issues and this IS NOT the appropriate place to put them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:20, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

This is a biographical article it is not the place to put "allegations" and current student campaigns.Cferart (talk) 03:43, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

I have removed this material (again, as it turns out - someone else's attempt has already been reverted). It has already been inserted (by the same editor) into the RMIT page. That is the appropriate place for any debate / POV balancing about this material. It should not be duplicated here. It simply does not relate to the biography of this individual in a relevant way - a fact demonstrated by the limited reference in the text to Prof. Gardner. Please do not re-insert this text without first discussing here at the talk page. Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
I have removed a different re-insertion of this kind of material - again. This is, at most, material that should be covered on the RMIT page. I also read the reference which did not mention Gardner by name. To not only place this text on Gardner's page rather than RMIT, but then to call her racist on the strength of an article that does not make that claim, shows serious bias, not to mention being in violation of WP policy re biographies of living persons, which states in part:
"Biographies of living persons must be written conservatively, with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid paper; it is not our job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. The possibility of harm to living subjects is one of the important factors to be considered when exercising editorial judgment."
Can I urge other editors to deal with this issue, from a neutral perspective, on the RMIT page only? Cheers.hamiltonstone (talk) 01:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed another attempt to add this material. its a shame when the Wikipedia is misused in this way! Cferart (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2009 (UTC)