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July 5, 2011Good article nomineeListed

Digital Songs (Billboard)[edit]

Debut at no.#57 of Billboard Digital Songs [I can't find the link but if you click here Marry The Night charted on the Hot 100 and then you click on "Marry The Night", in the section "Also Charted On" you can see "#57 Digital Songs"] --Emish94 (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Digital Songs is a component chart of the Billboard Hot 100. We don't add component charts when a song has charted on its principal chart. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:59, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
OK! Understood it :) --Emish94 (talk) 21:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Release date[edit]

The song premiered on FarmVille on May 17, 2011 as promotion. Should this be considered the official release date of the song? Or is it the purchase date, May 23? Thanks. WIKIPEDIAN Penguin (♫♫) 18:42, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Credits[edit]

The digital credits and the physical credits say different things for where the song was mixed, and who mixed, recorded it, etc. Which should be used? Gaga690 (talk) 17:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Physical, there have been numerous instances when iTunes or Amazon have fucked up credits, recent being Gaga and Adele's album. — Legolas (talk2me) 17:14, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sales in S. Corea?[edit]

Here says "The song has sold 627,855 digital copies on the country"... so, Gaon Chart says MTN sold 392,229 copies (also says 2,246,007 and 1,887,008, but i don't think the songs sold that copies)... You can add something? --NicolásTM (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think the 1 million sales is total bullshit though. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The Digital chart includes " downloads, ringtone sales, background music sales and streaming". So, I think the number shows some point/index or sum of all the above things, not sales alone. Novice7 (talk) 04:18, 1 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK single, but US?[edit]

In this link, Billboard conffirmed that MTN is the next single in UK, but the label say: "Marry the Night" is definitely the next single in the U.K. We're undecided about here in the U.S".--NicolásTM (talk) 14:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Release?[edit]

Lady Gaga To Release 'Marry The Night' On November 21...--NicolásTM (talk) 18:31, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I used Digital Spy other than this site, which I prefer. Anyway, thanks and  Done. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

About GA...[edit]

Now that it's a single, don't you think that it's GA status should be revoked? Certainly there are going to be a lot more things that will come into place now that's it's getting an official release. Personally, I think there should be a standard on a certain amount of time when you can nominate a song or promotional single article so things like this don't happen. There's always a chance it can become an official single. Thoughts? — Status {talkcontribs 03:03, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly fails the Stability criterion, but I still believe that a proper assessment should determine the fate of this article's GA status. And I agree, too many song articles are prematurely nominated for GA. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As long as it is well-maintained (and i am sure it will be), the article can remain as a GA, in my opinion. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:08, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And I'm back. I will definitely not let this single falter from its quality. :D — Legolas (talk2me) 16:10, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am sure of it. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:38, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It has been well-maintained, much like "You and I". "Scheisse" will hopefully be a single too, lol. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 18:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK Peak[edit]

Marry the Night did not peak at 98, so why does it say so in the table? it peaked well outside of the top 100. I would change it myself but dont know the exact number.... it was around 112 i think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.90.7 (talk) 21:42, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bambi Awards 2011[edit]

She performed the song at the Bambi Awards 2011! Why do you guys have to be so ignorant and lazy that you can't even keep the page up to date? 39.47.124.109 (talk) 13:38, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mind your language and civility. Next time if you wanna post here, post with decency, we don't need foulers like you here. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:43, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That name is so funny. It was the name of .... I prefer not to say it because you may take me wrong. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:28, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll mind what i want to mind, but you better mind keeping this page updated. 39.47.60.47 (talk) 12:13, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, why don't you be bold and add information yourself. That is what Wikipedia is about. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 12:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is a collaborative effort. You do not pay anyone here. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:46, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well i was bold enough to update it when you guys deleted what i wrote! 39.47.60.47 (talk) 09:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mind that one of the core policies of Wikipedia is to provide third party, reliable sources, which you never did. Its a collaborative environment so next time you post something, the onus lies to you to post a reliable source for it. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:09, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i dont know who you are but this page is quite up to date thanks to the others above. hy dont u contribute and it not you can refrain from being rude or u will certainly get a warning. BenWasHere (talk) 22:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Weeknd remix[edit]

I'm pretty sure I've seen that The Weeknd remixed the song. Is that worth adding in the article? My love is love (talk) 17:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure if you can find reliable third party sources critically discussing the remix, its worthy of inclusion then. — Legolas (talk2me) 18:02, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here and here. My love is love (talk) 20:22, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks MLIL, I'll try and work them out for a section in the article. — Legolas (talk2me) 02:21, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Children in Need[edit]

She performed it at the "Children in Need" in UK with Born This Way, please update both live performances on both singles' pages. 39.47.7.38 (talk) 17:10, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been told time and again to provide source. If you cannot provide it, please dont post here. — Legolas (talk2me) 17:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What you're saying is that i had a dream in which she performed on this event? Can you talk sense please? It's EVERYWHERE on the net. 39.47.112.109 (talk) 08:39, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it so difficult to copy and paste a link here? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it so difficult to look over at the news? 39.47.3.29 (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ya it is, so why don't you do it for a change? — Legolas (talk2me) 16:23, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't bother with this guy. Normally I would go with WP:HUMAN and assume good faith, but this anon has done nothing but complain about our so-called laziness when it is him who needs to learn how to co-operate. And this is coming from a very civil editor, not an elitist. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 16:34, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

<Deleted IP cruft> 39.*** next time, post source, else please dont post at all. It will be reverted. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:24, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Australia[edit]

The single entered the official Australian charts last week at #88 and moves up to #80 this week.211.31.126.76 (talk) 06:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source? — Legolas (talk2me) 06:54, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
auspop.net They post an official chart preview provided by ARIA each Sunday morning. Positions beyond 50 are only published in the official ARIA Report (distributed via pdf to subscribers each Tuesday/Wednesday - I am a subscriber, so have a copy of last week's with the debut position, but you can also see the official blurb for it at http://www.ariacharts.com.au/pages/chartifacts.htm).211.31.126.76 (talk) 08:58, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the source, its added as position 88. The position 80 could not be verified though. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

marry the night uk new peak[edit]

marry the night re entered the uk singles chart at no. 18 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.208.185 (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peak 9 Scotland! :)[edit]

http://www.theofficialcharts.com/scottish-singles-chart/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.137.94.147 (talk) 20:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from , 25 November 2011[edit]


82.7.64.147 (talk) 05:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Zidanie5 (talk) 07:32, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

November 21 has passed, and Marry The Night is not in iTunes UK nor Amazon UK. The UK date got pushed back to December 4. In the release history section, change the UK date from November 21 to December 4. Source — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.148.120 (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. Your edit request has been answered. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 21:04, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 30 November 2011[edit]

Will you add to the music video section, The video is set to be released via E! News on December 1st, 2011, at 8:00PM. ?? I don't know how to cite her facebook page, but it says on her facebook. 98.214.158.3 (talk) 02:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Already present. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music video[edit]

77.28.235.108 (talk) 17:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the links. They will be incorporated into the article once the video is released and we are able to view the video for ourselves. The sources will be used for interesting parts, such as the prelude. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 20:28, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Edit request on 2 December 2011[edit]

On December 1, 2011 Lady Gaga released the full 14-minute version of her music video "Marry the Night". [1]

TodaysNews (talk) 05:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Already added with reception. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:13, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Lady Gaga releases full "Marry The Night" music video". Lady Gaga 14-Minute Music Video.

Beethoven[edit]

The Piano part in video is Ludwig van Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 8 in C minor, Op. 13, commonly known as Sonata Pathétique — Preceding unsigned comment added by

Music video inspiration[edit]

My love is love (talk) 21:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video[edit]

Is the Synopsis under development? 39.47.44.103 (talk) 10:36, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:38, 3 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why the article don't have Synopsis of it music video? Iuri i10 22:07, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
Maybe because its too long? 121.207.110.153 (talk) 00:51, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am working on it. Do not worry. It's a long and complex plot, so it may take some time. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 02:29, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done, complete with a video screenshot. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 14:14, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful..... lets marry the night :P — Legolas (talk2me) 14:21, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
She's got a great ass. BAM! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 14:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wish they would give me the gummy bears! — Legolas (talk2me) 14:24, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, sucks for Def Jam. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 14:27, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

UK[edit]

Eh... new UK chart position?

Can you provide a source? Thanks. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry that was before it was edited to "16". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.239.68.209 (talk) 20:34, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Official release date[edit]

The infobox here says Marry the Night was officially released on November 15, 2011. But, on the Born This Way album page - under the singles section - it says "Marry the Night" was released on October 17, 2011. This should be cleared up. - Christianrxx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christianrxx (talkcontribs) 14:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kind of annoyed[edit]

There are a shit ton of Edie Sedgwick references in this vid that I can provide clear references for and a Bob Dylan quote, I can't add this stuff even though I've been a member for a quite a while because I haven't edited ten times. --Dollystyle (talk) 05:11, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You can add your sources here. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
After I get everything together I will do so. Thanks.--Dollystyle (talk) 18:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Beethoven in Music Video[edit]

Beethoven's Sonata Pathétique was played for a portion of the music video, should be noted. -- 75.74.37.80 (talk) 15:19, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source? And is it so important? The synopsis must be brief and general. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 15:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, source is the video. You only have to hear it to know it's Beethoven. Srsly.--Dollystyle (talk) 18:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
[1] This is in case you are super picky about this, but it's like asking someone to get a source to make sure Jay-Z really sampled Annie in Hard-Knock Life.--Dollystyle (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can somebody add it?? I think it's quite relevant, at least more than the Stéphane Rolland outfit... It's the Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven), I don't think it's necessary to have even a source for this but anyway this tweet by Gaga should be OK.--94.36.31.160 (talk) 01:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to add it [here]. Unfortunately, Wikipedian Penguin undid it ignoring that the artist has quite a remarkable piano education and includes (sometimes in a not entirely obvious way) famous masterpieces in her own work. This is not the first one. A chat with Wikipedian Penguin did not help. Vvrq (talk) 17:06, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Vvrq, WP has explained to you in his talk page that such an addition needs a reliable source, and you didn't provide it, neither you took the onus to find one. And bullshit sources like Twitter are unacceptable. So, next time find a source saying that its a Beethoven piece playing in the background, and we will add it. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:06, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Legolas, please reread the other chat: I did search for references. And found only one - apparently not considered a reliable one. And I went through *all* of the 100+ references to see if there is some mentioning. But there was none. At least I was able to see the redundancy of all those references. How they the result of a few "leaks". Try to see it that way: On the one hand, a reference to 8-track cassettes - a shortlived, defunct technology of the 1960s is added without giving a "reliable source". On the other hand, a reference to an artwork that is actively and continuously received and interpreted for more than two centuries needs a "reliable source". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vvrq (talkcontribs) 23:41, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Here is to hoping this edit is satisfactory. It took some time to find a highly reputable source, but this--New York magazine--should be OK. I failed to find a reference that specifies that it is the first movement however. —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 00:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cassette??[edit]

She doesn't insert a cassette into the Trans-Am, it's an 8-Track.--Dollystyle (talk) 19:06, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also the Trans Am started having a sun roof around 74-75, so it makes sense for the 8-track. She probably has a newer version, but technicalities and whatnot.--Dollystyle (talk) 19:13, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Corrected. Thanks! —WP:PENGUIN · [ TALK ] 19:53, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request[edit]

In the release history section, change the United Kingdom release date from December 5 to November 30 because the source given says November 30 not December 5.

Also add that Marry The Night The Remixes (Digital Remixes EP) will also be released in the United Kingdom on December 20, 2011.Source. It currently only says United States, it should be United States and United Kingdom.

These are already done. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:52, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, theyre not, The united kingdom date should be November 30...it currently says December 5...change it to November 30.

Now its done. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

#2 in Taiwan[edit]

http://top40-charts.com/chart.php?cid=14&date=2011-12-02 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.115.195 (talk) 02:19, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Final Single?[edit]

There's no conformation that Marry The Night is Lady GaGa's final single yet it's blatantly and briefly listed as so within the first couple of sentences. If one has a source, please include it. If not, then delete it. Why should it be there when we have nothing to go on to indicate it's the final single? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.116.252.126 (talk) 08:01, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Usa certification[edit]

Here says marry the night Platinum in U.S.A,where is the proof????? thnak's :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.201.186.7 (talk) 17:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Altered chart positions[edit]

I think someone altered the peak positions this song had on the charts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.236.77.27 (talk) 19:25, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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