Talk:Mary McCarthy (author)

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but by the latter half of the decade she had repudiated Soviet Union-style expressing solidarity with Leon Trotsky after the Moscow Trials,

Does this clause mean anything? And if so, what? I shall be recasting to my best guess as to the intended meaning.

It looks like this is the product of a random deletion back in March. The line originally read:
"but by the latter half of the decade she had repudiated Soviet Union-style Communism, expressing solidarity with Leon Trotsky after the Moscow Trials[...]"
Your edit appears to return it to the original intent. ~CS 21:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I've changed this to "Soviet-Style Communism." This was my original intent, since the term encapsulates both the Russian "Soviet" and such movements in America. User:SAWIT 9:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus. —Nightstallion (?) 08:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Mary McCarthy (author) → Mary McCarthy … Rationale: The author is the historically significant person. The former CIA analyst is already out of the news and will be a footnote to history in another two weeks. ~ trialsanderrors 08:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC)


Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
  • "'Support'"--Mary Therese McCarthy (author) will likely remain the primary object of interest. It it worth noting that the author has already indured a number of such identity trials including conflation with a Hollywood screenwriter.
  • Weak oppose -- As long as a proper dab page exists, there's no problem with this article having its new, "qualified" title. Atlant 11:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose. I don't see any real reason to get rid of the dab page, while there's still an ambiguous article here. If/when the other Mary McCarthy is deleted, that'd be the time to address the issue. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 20:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong suppport Primary usage. Dab header, of ocurse. Septentrionalis 02:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support as the requester. With only two entries under Mary McCarthy, there is no need for a dab page, as long as there is a dab header in each article. ~ trialsanderrors 04:47, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Comment: It should be noted that, contrary to the information provided in the header for this straw poll, the McCarthy from the CIA is not out of the news. In fact, there was a large article about her in the Washington Post just yesterday. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 13:16, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah I linked to this Saturday night. It was, of course, the first article of note in about three weeks, and I've been monitoring the situation fairly closely. ~ trialsanderrors 17:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Sigh...the author is clearly the primary usage. But I suppose the previous poll was too recent. If someone refers to "Mary McCarthy" without any context, it's going to be the author, not some minor figure from the news. john k 13:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Hellman lawsuit[edit]

It isn't true that the lawsuit against McCarthy kept on until both women's deaths. Someone has "documented" this with a reference to Kiernan's biography, p. 702, but in fact there is no reference to this happening in that biography. In fact, on p. 701, Kiernan documents that Hellman's estate ended the suit in August, only a little over a month after Hellman died.

Isn't the lumping together of the Moscow Trials and the Popular Front inaccurate and misleading as the latter was also part of a strategy employed by non-communist and liberals to ally with the Soviets and their followers against Hitler which culminated in the three power alliance of the Allies against the Axis? Unfortunately, much of the Partisan Review set oriented around the isolationalist America First crowd based on their anti-communism, an attitude that informed the "withchunt" of the 50s and Cold War Liberals like McCarthy who colluded with it.
Moreover, McCarthy's scurrilous attacks on former POW Risner whom she had visited in Hanoi in 1968 tend to corroborate Hellman's characterization of McCarthy as a malicious, narcissistic and unscrupulous philistine, an example of the stereotype of the bourgois intellectual as an unsavory cosmopolitan type.

I hate boxes![edit]

Why? The one on this biographical page provides a classic example of the stupid editting promoted by boxes. Ever detail of where this woman died and what she died of is inside that box. Well, I suppose that her death is a verifiable fact! However the box tells me nothing whatsoever that I need to know. I can get the birth and death dates and nationality from the first line of the intro.

So the box presents lung cancer as the most significant event in a productive life! Amandajm (talk) 07:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Moreover, the marriage dates in this box make no sense at all. Especially for the last two spouses it looks like she was married to both at the same time... -- (talk) 23:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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