Talk:Megan Fox/Archive 1

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The controversial quote

The subject's controversial "Middle America" quote was repeated twice in the current article. I rolled the first into the second, as the second was in better chronological order. I didn't remove any of the references, but I am not certain whether they are all necessary or notable. LaPrecieuse (talk) 19:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Fan sites?

I have searched all internet to find Megan Fox hot fan sites, and found. And later i added here to share with people who interest. And i see some people deleted it reason is spam. What a stupid idea it is? If ı add just one site maybe you right, but i spent hours to find all fan sites about her to serve who interest with her. We call it information, and if you don't let me free to share my knowledge how Wikipedia can improve himself. This is really unfair and uneducated something... !!!the website os www.meganfoxishotfanclub.com

Yes, that really sucks because I was trying to find some fan sites and that would have helped :(

Linking to a bunch of outside sites can be seen by some editors as spamming. You could post that information on this page, the talk page, though. I know people like myself would appreciate it. :) Gary Seven 17:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Posting them all would be overkill. Think of all the sites dedicated to Paris Hilton or Brad Pitt. Adding all of them would make Wikipedia into a link depository and not an encyclopedia. And really, most of those sites have mostly the same photos repeated from one to the other. See WP:EL for the External Links policy. Dismas|^(talk) 18:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Adding references and links, such as fan sites are "spam" because they have no actual proof or sources to back-up what they say, which means that some or even all of what they say and write could be made up. Also when adding references and links to wikipedia the links have to be reliable. Ashley92995 (talk) 05:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

GA Review=Fail

I'm sorry, but I am going to have to fail this article. For one, it was still listed as a stub until I changed it to Start. Next, it wouldn't have even passed for a B-class article. Its structure is sub-par, and its coverage and accuracy is also. Fix this, and renominate it after it has passed the B-class checklist. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ ^{Drop me a line}§ 02:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion there's hardly enough information available on Fox, yet, to make a good or even B class article. Fox is a straight out of high school article who's career has just started, we'll have to wait a while before this article can succeed. Eatspie (talk) 01:51, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

That photo is awful!!!! Is that the best anybody can come up with? Yikes!68.116.40.228 (talk) 23:56, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Myspace page

In an interview with Megan Fox, she states she does not have a MySpace page. 2:10 in this YouTube video Transformers Movie:Megan Fox interview.69.149.223.47 (talk) 05:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

No mention of the Wonder Woman hoax?

I mean she was in the poster after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.48.130.33 (talk) 14:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

No, she wasn't. That is, the hoaxer put here there. She was not involved herself. And there you have your answer. CapnZapp (talk) 16:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Such related events need to be reliably sourced, verifiable, and from a neutral point of view to be included in the article. Otherwise it's a biographies of living persons violation. Biographies on Wikipedia are to be complied with high standards, as they may have wide impact to their real life. More information related to this can be found at Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy. Unsourced libel information should be removed as soon as possible, and without having to wait for a discussion to be initiated. As an addendum, most of such events should be notable. --Kanonkas :  Talk  20:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Error in Personal life

There is an error here, it states: "At age 16, Fox launched her career after winning several awards at the 1999 American Modeling and Talent Convention..." If she was born in 1986, she would have only been 13 in 1999. Can someone correct this? -98.221.129.167 (talk) 23:57, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed -Ashley92995

Erroneous information in the "Personal life" section !

All references to "Brian Salvi" are erroneous in the Personal life section. You merely need to read the three references given (20, 21 & 22), which are accurate and all speak of Brian Austin Green.

Furthermore, the tattoo on her right arm is of Marilyn Monroe's face, not Brian Salvi's face! You can actually see this if you look at the picture of her in a red dress.

There is also profanity in this section, which apparently no one has considered necessary to remove.

Established users are doing a terrible job on keeping this page accurate.

Americola (talk) 08:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

has this been fixed? iCheets (talk) 22:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Link to Movie "Whore" should direct to "Whore (2008 film)"

The content of the article is specifically referencing the name of the movie "Whore" not simply the word "whore." This should be corrected as soon as possible. Only1true (talk) 19:54, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed kollision (talk) 06:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

After recent changes this has been broken again. Only1true (talk) 03:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

It was fixed, but I'm wondering why you didn't just fix it yourself. Wildhartlivie (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

The page is semi-protected and at the time I did not have access to change it. Only1true (talk) 16:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Good reason. Thanks. Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:50, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Oppoiste --> Opposite

Article says "...starring oppoiste Ashley Olsen." Opposite is spelled incorrectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.121.245.55 (talk) 02:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed kollision (talk) 06:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

In the "Personal life" section, it should say May 14 instead of 14 May.

She is an American, so shouldn't it say May 14 instead of 14 May? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.162.40 (talk) 00:16, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

: Fixed -This issue has been resolved - Ashley92995

Wording

The article is horribly written, I could only bear the first few paragraphs but I spotted several mistakes. For example "when she was 16 year olds". "Fox's parents divorced when she was young and her and her sister were raised by her mother and her stepfather.", —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyrulio (talk • contribs) 00:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Seconding this. The article is absolutely garbage. The number of errors and stylistic pretzels is just insurmountable, and it is a pain to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.46.224 (talk) 05:16, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. Poorly written. Someone needs to clean it up if only from a grammar standpoint. It's ugly. I would do it but cannot see an edit tab (I'm new). :) PorterHouseHalf (talk) 15:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Michael_Turner_(comics)

michael turner? why only link to generic disambiguation page? there is only one michael turner (comics) who recently died and fits to the description in megan fox wikipedia page. Michael_Turner_(comics) change the link —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suggestednickname (talk • contribs) 10:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed Ashley92995 (talk) 05:42, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Disagreement with Producers

I edited the statement about disagreeing with Michael Bay about her character, as the proceeding quote about taking about certain people in Middle America has nothing to do with any disagreement and there has been no citation documenting this. The quote is simply Fox's opinion during an interview. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chancat74 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No mention of Olivia Wilde?

I know it is mentioned about her girl crush on Cheryl Cole in the Personal Life section, but her crush on Olivia Wilde is way more publicized. In her interview with GQ back in September 2008, she states "I could see myself in a relationship with a girl - Olivia Wilde is so sexy she makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands. She's mesmerizing." To which Olivia has replied in an interview with the same magazine in the June 2009 issue, “of course, anything I can do to save the mountain ox, I’m happy to do,”. Wilde712 (talk) 05:52, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed I just added this to Fox's personal life section Ashley92995 (talk) 08:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Religion

Put somewhere that she is Catholic... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.215.211.250 (talk) 19:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, this is on her official page. I recommend adding it in "personal life" 76.20.25.207 (talk) 23:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrofork (talk • contribs) 23:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

OK thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.20.25.207 (talk) 02:20, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

This issue is now resolved, let's not touch this part anymore, please. Pyrofork (talk) 03:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed Ashley92995 (talk) 05:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Plastic Surgery

Can someone add about her surgery, there are written rumors about her being the next Lara Croft, but nothing about her surgeries. There are lots of sources on the net claiming it, here are some pictures: http://www.makemeheal.com/news/images/megan-fox-rhinoplasty.jpg I have written this before and it has been deleted, if this gets delete again i will flag this article for unilateral/biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.99.30.61 (talk) 02:57, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

You do make a point on her having surgical procedures but Fox herself has never officially confirmed it, so websites, like the ones you've stated are classified as "rumors" because showing before and after pictures isn't actual proof. Thou if Fox herself does confirm or deny that she had surgical procedures done then it will be mentioned in her personal life section. - Ashley92995

Proof: Doesn't have a myspace, twitter, etc. and is not dating Shia, all in one link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Uo0YK8k1k&NR=1

at 10 seconds they both deny a romantic relationship, at around 45 seconds she states neither her nor shia have any kind of social networking page (myspace, facebook, etc.) please refrain from referencing any "official page" in this article. WalterWalrus3 (talk) 05:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

She does, that is an old interview. MeganFoxOfficial is confirmed by her to be the myspace she uses. (not her, but her staff) 76.20.25.207 (talk) 07:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

She doesn not, that is a week old video, according to the myspace celebrity directory, megan fox does not have a myspace. So until you can provide video or irrefutable interview proof, for the legitimacy of this article, i must insist that any myspace links from megan fox be refrained from the site. WalterWalrus3 (talk) 02:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The video was POSTED one week ago. It's an old interview. Nonetheless, she has stated her religion many times. I do not know why you are refuting all this - the fact remains. See both parts of this for details: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f31SeZ_GB0 I will however change the reference for you. I hope we have reached an agreement. Pyrofork (talk) 02:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This issue is now resolved, let's not touch this part anymore, please. Pyrofork (talk) 03:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed Ashley92995 (talk) 05:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Spelling

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Please replace both occurrences of "epsiode" with "episode". Thanks. 58.11.71.158 (talk) 15:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Done Welcome and thanks for improving the article. But wait, there's more! I threw in the Episdoe correction in honor of Billy Mays. Celestra (talk) 17:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! 58.11.71.158 (talk) 20:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Early life

it says she is of irish, french and native american ancestry but she is also of italian ancestry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Juve10mets (talk • contribs) 18:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC) iCheets (talk) 22:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Quotations

There are at least 30 quotations in the article, that's ridiculous. This is an encyclopedia, therefore summarize quotations that say something important, excise the rest. Exceptions: those that are difficult to summarize adequately, and those where exact wording is important or interesting. GregorB (talk) 19:55, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

early life

she realized that she is a man. Her "early life" section is very poorly written. I can't rewrite it myself because I'm new so can someone please rewrite it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DumDumDugan2 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree 'when Fox was 17 she tested out of school via correspondence from St. Lucie West Centennial High School.' is nonsense - people go to Primary school, progress to Secondary School and then go on to Sixth Form or College before University. I personally know the education system inside out due to my job and know the article to be wrong; if one wishes to move to a different educational establishment then they need simply apply with a letter of reason and a letter of academic achievement (obviously with a Record of National Achievement copy attached, unless applying for a mainland European School, in which case a letter of recommendation is also necessary), after which they are or are not accepted. This section of the article is not only badly written but simply wrong and should be rewritten to reflect the educational system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gimmeallyourlovin (talk • contribs) 15:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I removed the references to the various schools, since I could not find a valid reference to them. Ccrashh (talk) 15:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Too many pictures

Hi, I think one picture is enough and three is definitely one too many. Not that the pictures aren't pretty or anything. AadaamS (talk) 07:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I don't neccisarily disagree with having 3 pictures, I couldn't care less (and a little variety is good), but I do disagree with the pictures being pretty thing. I (not really knowing her on a name-face basis) looked her up here and was almost immediatley saddened due to semi-disappointing pictures. Then reading that she was in like, 3 movies that I had seen (mainly Transformers, and going, "Oh hey, that chick was hot!") got confused, looked her up in google images, and was rejuvinated by prettyness..... I'll I'm trying to say is that we should have some prettier pictures on here if there is going to be three of them, or atleast some diversity. I'm not trying to say "No ugly pictures', or that they're ugly, but you know........ and don't critize me for google imaging her. it was fast and quick, get over it. Thakmere (talk) 02:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I meant to say that imho there is nothing wrong with any of the pictures, just that a single one should be enough. AadaamS (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Oak Ridger source no longer available

The link for the cached Oak Ridger source no longer works. The rest of the citations in the "Early life" section (probably the other sections, too, but I haven't looked at those yet) are pretty sloppy, so I'm hesitant to assume that info cited to that source is actually contained in the article. Is anyone able to assert what information currently in this article is actually stated in the Oak Ridger story? Propaniac (talk) 13:52, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed Ashley92995 (talk) 18:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Rhianna -> Rihanna

In the "Public Image" section, the "new Beyonce" referred to in the quote is presumably Robyn Rihanna Fenty ([[1]]), not Rhianna Hannah Louise Kenny ([[2]]) and should be spelled "Rihanna." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cea801 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed Ashley92995 (talk) 19:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I removed the fair use images

Fair use images aren't allowed on articles of living people. Commons has 26 free images of Megan Fox, so it's not as if there aren't any available. A cropped version of File:Megan Fox and Shia Labeouf promoting Transformers in Paris.jpg would work just as well when discussing her film career.--Sandor Clegane (talk) 00:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Not quite true. You're not allowed unfree images if they could conceivably be replaced by a free one. However, if there is a reason for including a fair use image - say a film poster she was on that has special significance - then that's fine. -mattbuck (Talk) 00:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

"Sex Symbol"

I know there is a more proper term to use then what I am putting above, but perhaps we should consider condensing a lot of Ms Fox's iconic looks/sex symbol status (thats the term I was looking for) under a topic called "Sex Symbol Status" where we have a better place in the directory to place this into. My two cents. Whippletheduck (talk) 02:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Tattoos?

It's her ex-fiance Rick Zambrana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.45.158.118 (talk) 14:29, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

"Though" misspelled as "thou" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.176.180 (talk) 01:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

If you've seen any new photos of her, it seems she has several tattoos. Maybe this is normal to some people, but it seems as if it could become a distinctive feature of her, similar to Angelina Jolie. If anyone has info.

The Tattoo on her right shoulder http://www.meganfoxy.com/gallery/2007-mtv-movie-awards/

"We will all laugh at guiled butterflies". Guiled butterflies are pretentious courtiers. Refrence from Shakespeare's King Lear. http://nfs.sparknotes.com/lear/page_278.epl I would guess that means: "We will all laugh at pompous brown-nosers"

~preview~ I read in an interview that sh was moved to her Aunts house at age 10 because she emptied her mothers purse and went to the zoo. Before acting, she went to Los Angeles with very little money, she had 2 choices, to become a hooker or get a job, and she has the body for it. She became a waitress and that is where a modeling agent saw here. Can someone add that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.74.9.8 (talk) 17:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

yeah, i remember readin something about her getting a waitressing job, but quitting cause too many guys were feeling her up. Drasern 04:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Maybe your confusing it with this http://www.maxitmag.com/loose-wires/articles/megan-fox.html, which is ment to be satirical --Maldanito (talk) 02:28, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Megan is currently spending time in regional theatre in the UK where she is realising her theatrical roots. Her greatest accolades have been parring with the great Rod Hull in the seminal production of Alladin

The tattoos section is the creepiest, most stalkerish thing I've ever seen! Jesus christ, people. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.99.27.252 (talk) 21:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with the last person who said this was "stalkerish". The fact that she has a couple of tatoos that actually say something -- and without images -- is quite odd and worth discussion. It might be interesting to have them mentioned in the main article with a reason why they are there. Clearly, she wants the world to see them, because the lettering is not at all small. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulej (talk • contribs) 04:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Error: In the line

• Fox had shown interest in getting her yin/yang tattoo remarking that the tattoo artist "didn't do it correctly" because he was distracted, however, Fox still has that tattoo as of August, 2009.

needs to say

• Fox had shown interest in getting her yin/yang tattoo removed remarking that the tattoo artist "didn't do it correctly" because he was distracted, however, Fox still has that tattoo as of August, 2009. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Torstenaf (talk • contribs) 16:41, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Wording in introduction

I think the line "She is well known for her roles on the television series Hope & Faith (2004) and in the 2007 live-action film Transformers" should be edited. I don't think Megan Fox is "well known" by any means. In fact, seeing her at the Golden Globes red carpet coverage was the first I'd ever heard of her. Neither Hope & Faith nor the Transformer movie were exactly huge successes.Redsonjablue (talk) 16:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Currently, Transformers is one of the top 30 highest grossing movies of all time and was nominated for three academy awards. If that isn't successful, then please elaborate on what a concrete example of successful is. WalterWalrus3 (talk) 03:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

This wording makes no sense "In 2007, Fox was listed #18, #16, and #2 on Maxim magazine's yearly Hot 100 from the 2007 to 2009 list. "76.65.29.172 (talk) 10:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I fixed it a bit. See if you think anymore changes are needed in that paragraph. —SpaceFlight89 11:34, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Introduction

I read the first paragrapgh of the introduction again and in reads almost like the career section. Isn't this suppost to be more like a short header giving a quick overview rather than stating what is already later in the article. An example is stating many of the different televisions programs she has appeared on (all by name). A little clean up and cutting down on this portion might be warrented. thanks B.s.n. (R.N.) 04:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I removed most of the superfluous information. Let's see how long that edit will last :) Ccrashh (talk) 12:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I suggested an expansion of the lead, because it failed to adequately summarise what the article is about, which is the point of a lead. It seems the expansion was slightly too much, but the edits that have been made to cut back have reverted the lead to its previous state, which is not summarising... MasterOfHisOwnDomain (talk) 22:12, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I've restored a more concise form of the lead as it was before the major removals, as what was there did not come close to summarizing the article's contents as WP:LEAD dictates. I streamlined a few things mainly and cut down on the specific TV shows and movies mentioned. That way, it's not overly detailed. I do wonder though whether the lead should mention Fox's tendency toward outrageous comments, as she's getting as much press for this as for her acting roles...

Also, I removed the lead's mention of her modeling—to state she's a former model in the very first sentence, then say she's had a successful career as a model, is somewhat puffish, considering her modeling "career" appears to be so insignificant that the body of the article says virtually nothing about it. Rebecca Romijn is an actor and former model. Fox is just an actor, and the lead should reflect this unless more comes to light to show she truly had/has notability and success as a model.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 13:51, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

The information about her dating Brian Austin Green in the lead is still too much. Most of that should be in her Personal life section, where the parts about it not in the lead already are. If no one objects on this talk page, I am going to cut that down in a day or two. Flyer22 (talk) 22:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Tone of article tag?

What problems do any editors here have with the tone of this article that has caused it to be tagged as needing a different tone? Was it just the lead? Has this matter been resolved yet so that the tag may be removed? Flyer22 (talk) 07:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I removed the tone tag. But now that I look at the whole lead, such as all that info about her dating Brian Austin Green, there is no doubt why it was added. As I just stated above, I plan to cut down on that in a day or two if no one objects to it here on the talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 22:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

The tone tag was added for reasons stated by an editor in a previous section here on the talk page. I did a quick look for it, but the exact reasoning is buried somewhere among all the discussions. I don't remember what the editor said, but it seemed like adding the tag was kind of a stretch, IMO.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 20:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Clubbing

Can anyone find a credible source on Megan Fox's clubbed thumbs? 76.117.235.229 (talk) 02:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Adding information to Fox's page like that Fox has "clubbed thumbs" isn't notable or important. - Ashley92995 (talk) 05:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

It is since it is usually linked to underlying illnesses that can be life threatening. 71.228.220.209 (talk) 02:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Clubbed nails is an after-effect of hypoxia (lack of oxygen for an exteded period of time.) I believe this would be notible if a source is found that states this may have happened to her and under what circumstances. B.s.n. (R.N.) 19:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

i second this, but would it not be posted untill she reveals what happened to cause this in an interview? I heard she's extremely self conscious about them —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuroshio (talk • contribs) 11:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

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Please delete the following:

The fact that Megan Fox has appeared in something other than pornography is an enormous fluke that proves that any event that has a probability over zero has happened in some universe or another.

It is blatant vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.142.208 (talk)

 Not doneThere is nothing such in the article! :-) --Srinivas 05:38, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

It was there, but was removed before you looked it over. Flyer22 (talk) 23:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Dead Links and Info

The link to both her modelling career at age 13, and the fact that "she was so poor that she had to make her own toys" is dead ("Fox Flying High". http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21950619-2902,00.html. Retrieved 2009-08-10). I was able to find a reference to her modelling career on the AMTC website, but absolutely nothing about her making her own toys - except on sites that extracted this article along with the now dead link. What is the philosophy on references that no longer exist and statements made based on those non-existent links? Ccrashh (talk) 15:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

You have a few options. The proper course of action would be to tag the dead/broken link as to indicate that the ref at one time or another verified the info it accompanied; that way, the info doesn't look like original research or anything. Or you can remove the ref and add —which is what I do, since it makes it easier to see that a new ref is needed. Or, if the claim seems a little fishy, or is otherwise unimportant to the article, or you're hardcore on the issue of uncited info, you can remove both the claim and the ref.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 00:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I should probably also note that the above link does work for me.  Mbinebri  ^{talk ←} 00:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh. And, oddly, it's back up for me too. I was getting a "sorry, this article has been deleted" message from the site itself. Obviously, they've reinstated it. Cool. Will reflect that in the article. Ccrashh (talk) 12:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

For dead links, you could also check Internet Archive. I do that first. If it is not found there, then I see if this information was reported on other reliable sites (like you did) or even fansites and such. For example, sometimes fansites have pieces of the article or the full version of the article. Of course, we cannot use fansites as reliable sources here at Wikipedia...unless they are the official sites of the celebrities in question. When I see that the information is indeed true, though I cannot use the fansite as proof, I format the reference without the url. Flyer22 (talk) 23:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Michael Bay feud information

Shouldn't this be expanded a bit? I am not saying that we should put that she called him Hitler, though I do not see why not since we list a few of the claims by Bay's crew against Fox. But right now, in the the Public image section about it, it seems to be significantly lacking. I feel that her saying the 2009 Transformers film is more special effects than acting should be mentioned first, then Bay's criticism of that quote by Fox, where he basically says that she is just a 23-year-old he "discovered" and does not know what she is talking about. After that, say something along the lines of "after Fox further criticized Bay, Bay's crew..." (finish that up with what is there now). Basically, this information can be relayed in an encyclopedic manner; the little bit about it there now leaves it as though it is a big question mark. If one wants to say that this other stuff has nothing to do with Fox's public image, I have to say I disagree; her reported feud with Bay is most definitely a part of her public image. It is not as though I am saying that we should relay this information as a feud, LOL.

Any thoughts about me expanding this topic a little? Flyer22 (talk) 23:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Go for it. I included it because bio articles can be so sanitized, whereas the Michael Bay feud was documented and referenced information of a side of her personality that adds more depth to this article than a mild fanzine.--Iacobus (talk) 01:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Michael Phillips

For the Public Image section of the article, I think it's worth mentioning that Michael Phillips called Megan Fox "... one of the worst actresses in Hollywood", while reviewing Jennifer's Body during yesterday's episode of At The Movies [3]

No, that type of stuff does not go in biographies about living people here at Wikipedia, unless it is in a section that discusses the film. In that case, we would also try to find a positive review of her acting ability or portrayal of that character to counter the negative view, per WP:Neutral. But, generally, we would simply state something like, "Fox's performance received positive and negative..." (whatever the right word is). Think about it. If we include that type of criticism about her acting ability in her biography article, we could include all types of criticism about her acting ability. And that would go for all actor and actress articles here. Something like that is better suited for the Jennifer's Body article. If Fox was continually credited as a bad actress, with hardly any good thoughts about her acting, then we could probably add a bit saying "her acting ability has been heavily criticized" to her Public image section without it seeming too non-neutral. But even that is definitely "iffy." Flyer22 (talk) 01:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Movies

On March 3, 2009 movie: Fathom

Film
Year	Film	Role	Notes
2009	Fathom	Aspen Matthews	Fathom is a movie adaptation of a comic of the same name.

Please Please add to the Filmography. Kamila 064 (talk) 20:23, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Personal Life

Hey I'm new to wikipedia but she lied about watching adult swim when she was 12. Adult swim didn't air until 2001. She was 12 in 1998. Can someone please add a line about this being false?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.25.186 (talk) 18:46, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Anthony Steinhart, a production assistant who worked on the Transformers, has also came out in her defence, stating that he had never "...witnessed Ms Fox being rude or inconsiderate of people’s feelings or the work to be done."

I don't like this, should be, "-Transformers, has come to her defense, stating-

What's wrong with it? Michael Bay came out in her defense as well, thus, the "also" Ccrashh (talk) 01:40, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

IP, what you noted is in her Public image section, not her Personal life section; yeah, I had to point that out. Anyway...I just now (moments ago) noticed that particular part of the section has been updated with more information. I still feel that it needs a little expansion on what happened before the accusations made by Fox and a little bit of what the accusations are about (though we can keep the exact Hitler mention out)...as to show what led to all that. But I noted this above, in the Michael Bay feud information section, and will get around to it later.

As for what you brought up, as Ccrashh basically stated, it is fine. Flyer22 (talk) 03:23, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Can I just say?

How funny her default picture is? Lol! There is better pictures of her. Should we change it? Maybe someone put it there as vandalism because she looks funny. I think we should leave it though, her article looks good. :)
--Homezfoo (talk) 05:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

It was vandalism. Fake picture; her head was put on a different body, and it most certainly should not be allowed to stay. It was removed, of course, and the person who put it there has been addressed about it (seeing as it is about to be deleted from Wikipedia). Flyer22 (talk) 21:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

walmart

what about her stealing from walmart when she was a kid? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.102.181.151 (talk) 05:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Hottest woman ever

Fox was named the hottest person 4 times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.181.0 (talk) 19:10, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Number of Images

There are more images of this one person in this article than is warranted by a single encyclopedia article. Granted Ms. Fox is very beautiful, but seven images? The proclaimed sexiest man alive of 2009 (J.Depp) has but 3 images of himself in his article. What is the image-count policy vs moving-the-story-along guidelines, or is this just 'People' lite now? Calixte (talk) 19:07, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

This is exactly what I thought when I first read this article. I think only one or two actually show her in some kind of relevant situation - the rest are of her head, looking pouty at movie premieres. -Colleen3217 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colleen3217 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

GA ?

I think, you can try again --Алый Король (talk) 12:27, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

It seems so. Although I am sure more tweaking is needed. If you know how to nominate it, you can go right ahead if no one objects here on the talk page. Anyone object? Flyer22 (talk) 21:38, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

I know how to nominate in Russian WP :) but I guess, who can help us --Алый Король (talk) 17:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Done --Алый Король (talk) 22:30, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

town she lived in in FL.

morningside academy and st. lucie west centennial are not in st. petersburg, they are in Port Saint Lucie. I should know this....since i'm from port saint lucie and my cousin went to centennial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jusplainjesse (talk • contribs) 01:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Well if you say so it must be true!! And your cousin went to Centennial? Wow! Your practically famous!--99.177.250.140 (talk) 16:51, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Quote about not trusting men

In addition, she has expressed a distrust of men. She is fantastic at fucking people!!!!! "I just don’t like them or trust them," stated Fox.

Could someone with sufficient privileges please remove this part? First of all, she was talking about young men, not men in general. The Elle article says:

I’ve lived the life of a 35-year-old since I was 18,” she says. “I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them.

Secondly, this remark was a joke, as she later explained in Entertainment Weekly:

Q: He's older than you. And you've said younger guys are a waste of time.
MF: I don't understand why people don't have a f---ing sense of humor. Always assume that I'm being sarcastic.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.15.126.122 (talk) 14:26, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I do not get how you concluded that she was talking about young men only, even if based on the fact that she herself is so young. As you pointed out, she clearly stated, "I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them."

Secondly, you cannot prove that the remark was just a joke with the completely different interview that you cited. Always assuming that she is being sarcastic? We cannot truly assume that she is never being serious about anything that she says. And even if we did, we are still supposed to relay her thoughts without our interpretation of them. We cannot add "Fox was clearly joking when she said she does not like or trust men." unless it is clear that it was a joke or specified by her in another interview as just a joke. The second interview you added, as I stated before, does not do that; it does not note her speaking of a distrust of men. Saying "younger guys are a waste of time" is not the same as saying "I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them." Going by your logic of removing the line simply because we must assume that it was just a joke and that she is always being sarcastic means that all quotes by her in this article should be removed. Furthermore, I must also point out that this is not the only time that Fox has spoken out in a manner that is anti-man; this is why some men feel that she is a misandrist (Googling Megan Fox hates men certainly shows that). Whether she is joking in each instance or not is not something that we can be sure of. What we can do is include her quotes. And if any of them are not as serious as first portrayed, we can later point that out...if with a reliable source clearly stating that it was just a Megan Fox joke; this is what I did for the stripper comments. I came across the fact that she was not entirely honest about the stripper matter, and added her confession about that. And going back to her "always" joking or being sarcastic, it can be argued that the following piece covers that: "In the June 2009 issue of ELLE, however, she stated that she somewhat distorted the events of her relationship with the stripper, saying she has given certain male writers 'an amped-up version' of her past. 'They’re boys; they’re easily toyed with,' she said. "I tell stories and have them eating out of my hand. Not all of it is true. In fact, most of it is bullshit.'" Flyer22 (talk) 02:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

1. She was in fact talking about young men only. Sorry, I probably should have included more context in the quote (see below).

2. Of course we shouldn't literally assume she is always sarcastic. But in this case, her statement that she jokes a lot was made in reference to that particular remark about men. In the Elle article she said:

Pattinson, for the record, isn’t her type anyway. “He and Zac— they’re just too pretty with the big hair and the suits. And Rob is, what, 22? Zac is 21? That’s a joke. Boys in their twenties are a waste of time. They have nothing to offer conversationally; they’re immature. I feel like I have a better shot with someone in his thirties.”
Never mind that she’s still seven years shy of that particular milestone. “I’ve lived the life of a 35-year-old since I was 18,” she says. “I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them.”

The EW interview took place shortly after that, while the above quote was making rounds on the Internet. This is clearly a direct reference to the Elle article:

Q: He's older than you. And you've said younger guys are a waste of time.
MF: I don't understand why people don't have a f---ing sense of humor. Always assume that I'm being sarcastic.

Again, I think this mention should be removed from the article.

While we're at it, the personal life section contains other irrelevant and semi-serious stuff that I think should be removed.

• The fact that she has crushes on Cheryl Cole and Rain. This is completely random and unimportant, it's gossip magazine stuff. Not to mention that on other occasions she's also mentioned Zac Efron, Robert Pattinson, Simon Cowell - should they all be listed?
• The fact that she deals with her fear of flying by listening to Britney Spears songs. She said on Conan O'Brian:
  

  "I figured that I know for a fact that it's not my destiny to die listening to a Britney Spears song so I always put that on my iPod when I'm flying because I know it won't crash as long as I've got Britney on."

Do we need an explicit clarification from her to know that something like this, stated in a satirical talk-show, is semi-serious at best? I'm sure you will agree it's common sense.

83.15.126.122 (talk) 22:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

We still cannot know whether she was only speaking of young men when she said "I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men." The point is that she said all boys-slash-men. She did not say all boys-slash-young men. Yes, she was speaking of young men just before that, but it can be argued that she simply followed that up with the fact that she distrusts all men.

I agree that mentioning her celebrity crushes is random and pretty irrelevant, though. Pretty much gossipy. And crushes do not usually last forever. I will remove the Cheryl Cole and Rain mentions, per your request.

As for the Britney Spears song stuff, again, we cannot know whether she was fully joking or not. No, I do not see that matter as clear-cut common sense, especially since all of the reliable news outlets that reported it reported it as if she was serious. People are serious on satirical talk shows all the time; they laugh and joke on there, but are also serious about certain matters. You yourself cited this comment as semi-serious. Serious or semi-serious, she has cited listening to Britney Spears songs as a remedy for her fear of flying. We did not include her entire quote, which I agree is her partly joking. All we noted is her cited remedy, which can certainly be believed to be the serious part of that quote...no matter how silly listening to Britney Spears songs to overcome a fear of flying might seem to most people. I am sure that for her...it is just superstition -- her own little ritual which makes her feel better about flying. Her fear of flying should be mentioned, and I do not see why mentioning the way she has said she deals with it should not be. Flyer22 (talk) 22:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for removing the celebrity crushes thing, I'm glad we agree.

I still think it's pretty clear she was talking about only young men:

1. She used the term boys-slash-men instead of just men.
2. She was talking about young men a moment earlier.
3. Most of all, the quote would be illogical otherwise:

   “I’ve lived the life of a 35-year-old since I was 18,” she says. “I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them.”

   Why would the fact that she lived a life of a 35-year-old make her distrust all men? There is no logical consequence. These three sentences are presented as a single thought which makes sense only if she meant young men: because she's lived a life of an older person, she prefers old men.

I hope this convinces you replace "men" with "young men". Otherwise, you must at least admit that is possible she mean young men, in which case we should take the safe course: just use her words verbatim and write 'she has expressed a distrust of "boys-slash-men"'.

As for Britney Spears, you do make a reasonable case. But I would cut it either way, it's still essentially trivia. Fear of flying is an important part of the picture of her personal life - listening to Britney Spears is just curiosity you tell on a talk-show.

One more thing. The article also says she "additionally showed interest in Olivia Wilde and Jenna Jameson". This originated from this quote in GQ:

"Olivia Wilde is so sexy she makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands. She’s mesmerizing. And lately I’ve been obsessed with Jenna Jameson, but.… Oh boy.”

From this it isn't clear that she is "interested" in Jameson - she says she's "obsessed". She elaborates on it in another interview:

"I'm obsessed with Jenna Jameson, not in a sexual way, but for the same reason I love Diablo. She took an industry that is not kind to women and she pretty much owns it now. She is a very successful, very shrewd, business-minded woman who used something that people think makes women weak and made herself extremely strong."

The mention of Jameson in that context is therefore misleading and should be removed. --83.15.126.122 (talk) 01:05, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I still say that it is not clear that she was only talking about young men. Her use of boys-slash-men instead of just men does not truly prove your point. Fox often refers to young men as boys. She often refers to men in general as boys; her quote about the stripper above is another example of that. It could be argued that she wanted to specifically address all types of men, since she was indeed talking about young men at first. It could be said that she even started saying "boys" and then added "men" because she wanted to express that she distrusts older men as well. Why would the fact that she lived a life of a 35-year-old make her distrust all men? Well, because she is saying that she is wise; she is very in touch with how all men work; through experience, she has developed a distrust of men in general...but feels that older men are the lesser evil. However, I will oblige you and put her exact words -- "boys-slash-men."

The Britney Spears song mention? I do not have much more to say about that, other than what I stated above about it. I am not seeing how the way she deals with her fear of flying is trivia. If the way she deals with it changes, then perhaps I would see the fact that she used to deal with it by listening to Britney Spears song as trivia.

The Jenna Jameson mention? I will remove that, per your argument and request. Perhaps we should remove the Olivia Wilde mention as well. As I stated above, crushes usually do not last forever. Flyer22 (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The claim that she distrust all men would have come out of nowhere in this interview - nothing she said before or after explains it. That it's because thanks to her wisdom "she is very in touch with how all men work" is only your speculation. On the other hand, the idea that she distrusts young men fits logically in the flow of her thoughts. I really think I have proven the latter interpretation is more likely to be correct.

By the way, in the past she made both negative and positive comments about both men and women. As we know, she isn't the one for political correctness and isn't afraid to speak critically on any subject, and the fact that it includes natures of men and women doesn't make her a a misandrist or misogynist. What I am getting at, is that her alleged misandrism is very dubious and shouldn't be used as an argument here. --83.15.126.122 (talk) 22:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Per her quote, ("I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men. I just don’t like them or trust them."), saying that she distrusts men in general does not come out of nowhere. In fact, it is the conclusion that most people get from that interview (if you go by the Internet comments). Your conclusion, that she was only referring to young men, is the first I have seen on that matter. And it seems that you came to that conclusion by the second interview you used as part of your argument for that. But I don't believe that most people would come to that same reasoning if presented that second interview. As I stated before, saying that young men are a waste of time is not the same as saying "I’m so suspicious of all boys-slash-men." My comment that she feels "she is very in touch with how all men work" is based on exactly what she said about having lived the life of a 35-year-old since she was 18; she is saying that she is wise enough to know how all men work romantic/sexual-wise and which age group is better for her at this point in her life. Just an interpretation? I think not. In her comments about the stripper, it is also quite clear that she feels that she knows how all men work romantic/sexual-wise...with the exception of maybe gay men and serial killers (who are usually men). To say that she is joking there is speculation as well. Wikipedia goes by what people say, not what Wikipedia thinks they may have meant...unless what they meant is quite clear. No matter how much you stress it, it is not quite clear that she was only referring to young men when she spoke of her distrust for "all boys-slash-men"...or that she was only joking about that. And, again, she often calls men "boys" (judging by her interviews). Her saying "men" in this case leads me even more to believe that she wanted to stress both young and old men (not that people in their 30s are old anyway). Otherwise, it can be argued, she would have just left it at "boys" like she often does. I doubt she added "men" because she feared that people would think she meant prepubescent boys without it. There is nothing more I can do for you on this matter. I have already paid close attention to your arguments, and I even obliged you on this and put in one of your suggested alterations -- her exact words of "all boys-slash-men." I am not trading that out for "young men" (which can include 30-somethings) or taking away all mention of her saying that she distrusts the opposite sex (especially seeing as I do not get the feeling that she was joking about that at all). Joking about young men being a waste of time? Maybe. But joking about distrusting all boys-slash-men? Doubt it.

As for the misandrist bit, that was not a true part of my argument. I only pointed out that this is not the only time she has made anti-man comments, and that her anti-man comments have led a lot of men to believe that she is a misandrist. Her having made negative comments about women would not take away from her being a misandrist if she were/is one. Plenty of men who are not misogynists have made negative comments about women or comments that can simply be described as anti-woman. Likewise for women who have made negative comments about men or comments that can simply be described as anti-man. Fox, however, has made a point of making anti-man comments in public; her anti-man comments are not on the same level as negative comments she has made about women, and have especially led men (and women) to believe that she is not all that fond or trusting of men. I have not called Fox a misandrist, and I do not care much if she is one. As a female (yes, my biological sex is female, as my user page notes, though I have often questioned my gender), the idea that she may be one just does not upset me as much as it may and does upset a lot of men. Do I think that it is good to hate all men? No. But she has demonstrated that she may not be too fond of men in general. Not liking them or distrusting them (or both) is not always the same thing as hating them. My point on that matter was/is that, given her past anti-man comments, it is not at all absurd to believe that, yes, she distrusts men in general.

I thank you for being polite while seeking changes for this article, and I have actually enjoyed reading your arguments; each one was like a careful analysis, which is something I appreciate. Wikipedia usually does not analyze quotes in the same way, however. We take comments for what they are, unless the comments clearly are not serious. But even controversial jokes get documented here. We just make clear that they were/are jokes -- ones that led to controversy. With Fox's comment about distrusting men, as I have stated more than once now, I have not seen any clear-cut evidence that she was only talking/joking about young men.

I welcome you to get more opinions about this, if you feel they are needed, though. I am not sure what happened to the usual editors of this article and talk page, but it would help out a lot if they were to weigh in on this. Flyer22 (talk) 00:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I am not gonna drag it any longer, we'll have to agree to disagree. I know in theory Wikipedia "takes comments for what they are" instead of analysing them, but it is hard to quote any comment in a way that is completely neutral. As long as you edit the comment instead of quoting it in full, you're always using some kind of interpretation. For instance, the fact that the article used to say "men" was already imposing a particular interpretation, which is why it was good to use the original phrase of "boy-slash-men".

As you said, hopefully some of the regular editors will chime in and settle it later. This issue isn't really THAT important, anyway. :) Cheers.

(off-topic: personally I have seen people accuse her of being anti-women much more often than anti-men. On a couple of occasions she said she gets along better with men) --83.15.126.122 (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Very good points, IP. And, yeah, I don't understand the rampant, down-right nasty hate she receives from women (which she has commented on)...other than the fact that she is very beautiful and usually has no qualms about speaking whatever is on her mind. Some women say that their reasons are not ones of jealousy...but I say that it is difficult to believe that jealousy is not a little part of their reasons. Flyer22 (talk) 03:54, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Flyer22-The above poster proved their point,you just don't want to admit you are wrong. Also,do you know Megan? Because when you said " I am sure that for her...it is just superstition -- her own little ritual which makes her feel better about flying" How would you know this? Are you friends with her? No,you're just making ASSumptions.--99.177.250.140 (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

No, the above poster did not prove their point regarding the quote about distrusting men. That point/argument is an assumption. It has nothing to do with me not wanting to be wrong. I often admit when I am wrong. It has to do with following Wikipedia policies and guidelines. We cannot sit here and speculate about quotes being serious or semi-serious based on Fox sometimes joking or being sarcastic..unless we know for certain (such as her clearly joking about something during a video interview). Otherwise, we cannot say, "Oh, she was just joking; it should be removed." Fox said she was joking about young men being a waste of time, but she did not say she was joking about distrusting men. Why is it difficult to believe that she simply distrusts men? A lot of women do, and, as I stated before, Fox has made more than one anti-man comment. It is not as though I am keen on proving that she distrusts men. I am simply keeping in tact what she said. What she stated about that can simply be altered and left at "In addition, she has expressed a distrust of men."...without the "I just don’t like them or trust them." part...and placed higher. I will alter it the way the IP suggested above, however.

As for Fox listening to Britney Spears songs, yes, I said, "I am sure that for her...it is just superstition -- her own little ritual which makes her feel better about flying." How would I know this, you ask? Um, because she basically said that. She does this when flying because she fears that the plane she happens to be on will crash otherwise. How is this not a superstition? How is this not a ritual? I believe my points are well made. Flyer22 (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Also, IP, you should remember to remain civil, per WP:CIVIL. In seeing some of your other talk page comments, it is clear that you should take civility into account (more in line with another Wikipedia talk page both of us commented on -- Talk:Lucas Roberts). Flyer22 (talk) 00:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

PLEASE CHANGE THAT HORRIBLE PIC ON THE TOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.87.64.79 (talk) 16:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Because of this character, her fame will end in a few short years.

Fox as a pronoun

Isn't it a bit irritating to read her last name over and over in the article when that name is used for a large industry or even the species? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.226.147 (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

No. Following the initial mention of a person's full name, it is standard journalistic practice to refer to the person solely by his or her last name. Also, the article is illustrated by several images of the same woman, so I hope anyone reading it would realize it discusses a person and not a real fox! liquidluck✽talk 04:22, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Brachydactyly

Photos of her right hand make it clear that she has this condition. Would it be an issue for it to be added somewhere in the article? There are numerous mentions of it on the internet, though I don't believe she has come out and openly spoken about her condition. Clearly, a reputable source would need to be found so it's not original research, but if it one was found? CallidoraBlack (talk) 00:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

You mean her "toe thumbs"? Yes, I was thinking of including mention of it. Reliable sources, a few where medical experts have weighed in, have confirmed that she has it. Flyer22 (talk) 22:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Adult Swim at 12?

If Fox was born in 1986, she was 12 in 1998. Adult Swim started on Cartoon Network in 2001. If you consider Cartoon Planet some sort of predecessor of Adult Swim, perhaps that would work to support the claim that she liked Adult Swim when she was 12. But if not, it's simply poppycock, like much of Megan Fox's reputation. 13-year-old boys, I'm sorry to disappoint you.

Yes, this was brought up before. That piece of information should clearly be removed from the article. Flyer22 (talk) 18:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the information. Crystal Clear x3 08:06, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Her sister's age

Is her sister's age really necessary?  Chickenmonkey  03:08, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

No, it isn't and I've removed it. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 00:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Twicks696, 31 May 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} List hometown as Rockwood, TN were her father still resides.

Twicks696 (talk) 23:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

 Not done, we can't add information such as this to articles on living people without a reliable source. Please see our biographies of living persons policy. Cheers, Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 00:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Supporting Role?

The page lists her as only having a "supporting role" in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Would it not be more accurate to list her as a lead role? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willdafifth (talk • contribs) 06:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

IS She a Man or Not?

I read this in an article: Megan Fox was born Mitchell Reed Fox in Rockwood, Tennessee. From an early age, Mitchell showed an interest in both performing and women’s clothing. When having a preacher lay hands on him did not ‘cure’ him of these interests, his parents simply put him on the pageant circuit.

By the age of 13, Mitchell had already started a career as a female child performer called ‘Megan Fox’. Making her debut on an Olsen Twins straight-to-video release, the twins have kept his secret all this time.

As a sweet 16 present, Fox’s parents offered him sexual reassignment surgery, which, given their child’s career, they’d hoped to write off as a business expense. Unfortunately laws prohibit such surgery to be done to minors.

Since then Megan has been working non-stop, and been included on many Hottest Women lists in publications around the world.

They also have a picture of her with a slight beard. is this true? is she really a man? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.131.138 (talk) 12:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I've been unable to find any evidence for this, seems like a tabloid wrote it up based off her video at the Golden Globes which, when taken in context, seems nervous/joking. 70.182.59.230 (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Rockwood, TN

She was born in Rockwood, TN http://www.meganfox.net/megan-fox-bio.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twicks696 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Need reliable source for this. Can't find another one besides that. Fansites don't count. ★Dasani★ 04:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 99.57.180.117, 23 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} The Movie Whore on her Filmography was never released it shouldn't be on the list, also he broke off the engagement with the Green Lantern wannabee.

99.57.180.117 (talk) 03:46, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. Please provide a reliable source for these facts. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 14:07, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Catholic??

In just about every magazine article I've read about Fox, she's always said that she was a member of a Pentacostal church. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChevyNazi (talk • contribs) 06:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you provide some references about your claim? Anyway, being raised Catholic and being a member of another church are completely different things.--Eversman (talk) 16:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 110.33.238.212, 13 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

110.33.238.212 (talk) 04:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

She also said that she love's a samoan guy name Barry.Scanlan who lives in Australia.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Thanks,  Davtra  ^(talk) 04:17, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

personal life

is a list of her friends and favorite things significant enough to mention? seems kinda non-encyclopedic.Seeasea (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

We really should not include a list of her friends, but mention of a few of her closest friends is okay. The same goes for things she likes to do. As long as reliable sources are provided along with it. Flyer22 (talk) 22:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

And mention of some of her good friends is already in the article. Flyer22 (talk) 22:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Megan Fox did not move to St. Petersburg

She moved to Benwood. St. Lucie West Centennial High School is located in Port Saint Lucie. I know this because I lived there. Also Megan Fox's sister was my guidance counselor at my middle school. Maybe you should check your facts before you write about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayyyyamber (talk • contribs) 16:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

We rely on reliable sources here, Ayyyyamber, per WP:Reliable sources. Any of that to back up your claims? Flyer22 (talk) 21:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I could get you a year book and show you. Do you think that I am an idiot? Why don't you look up St Lucie West Centennial high school and see where it is located. Do you see how St. Lucie is incorporated in the High School's name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayyyyamber (talk • contribs) 06:03, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

I do not think you are an idiot, just letting you know how Wikipedia works. Flyer22 (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Well you are still giving out false information and you shouldn't be allowed to edit this without a reliable source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.20.84 (talk) 16:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Are you replying to me or to Ayyyyamber? If to me, I only add biographical information when it is backed up by reliable sources. Flyer22 (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

A note: Megan is actually in my friends' siblings' yearbooks, and I am a St. Petersburg native. People knew her, took dance lessons with her, and everyone I've talked to says she just kind of "disappeared" in junior year. So she ABSOLUTELY was a St. Pete resident - it has been reported she moved around Florida, so I can be fairly sure she also lived in St. Lucie. (Posted Oct. 3, 2010) 72.184.89.96 (talk) 21:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC) Melissa

Someone put this in the page its true

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1645154/20100805/eminem.jhtml

it shows how she was in Eminem's "Love the Way You Lie" music video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Exdude329 (talk • contribs)

Edit request from 67.183.124.82, 12 September 2010

I have noticed that Megan Fox's wikipedia page makes no mention to her living in Port Sain Lucie, Fl for almost 6 years of her life. She went to Port St. Lucie Morningside Academy k-8 for half of 7th and all of 8th grade. Then went to Saint Lucie West Centennial High School for her entire High School career, where she was a cheerleader on the Jr. Varsity and later the Varsity team. She was not "made fun of" nor did she "eat lunch in the bathroom" as is stated in her wiki, I personally attended school with her and knew her due to mutual friends.

Any further information on her highschool life, or for proof of the information provided (speaking of the school attendance, not the extra) email me at the.xvillainx.secure@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.124.82 (talk) 10:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Grammatical error

The Tattoos section contains a grammatical error.

"Fox has eight known tattoos, including her husband's name "Brian" on her lower hip AND a picture of Marilyn Monroe's face on her right forearm,[66] and a crescent moon overlapping a five-pointed star above her right ankle. This tattoo is the only known colored tattoo that Fox has."

should read

"Fox has eight known tattoos, including her husband's name "Brian" on her lower hip, a picture of Marilyn Monroe's face on her right forearm, and a crescent moon overlapping a five-pointed star above her right ankle. This tattoo is the only known colored tattoo that Fox has."

the difference being the capitalized and in the first quote. As this is a list containing more than 2 items, the and should only come before the last item. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.245.249 (talk) 01:36, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. Flyer22 (talk) 20:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Thebestsas, 7 November 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Megan fox Thebestsas (talk) 14:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 Not done You did say specifically what you want edited. Inka⁸⁸⁸ 19:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

The new image

I would say the new image -- this one -- surely isn't the most flattering one. It's also not how she normally looks, as the facial expression is not her "relaxed" or even "sexy" face. We do not always have to use the most recent image. Flyer22 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Seriously, is there not a different fairly recent image we can use? By "fairly recent," I mean a good shot of her from either 2009 or 2010? Flyer22 (talk) 20:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Be Bold, and please change it if you have a more suitable image. worch (talk) 07:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

The picture is truly awful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.1.159.105 (talk) 03:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and changed it back to this 2009 picture. Flyer22 (talk) 00:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

How much of her ancestry is actually Native American?

Has she actually ever stated the exact breakdown of her ethnic background? Is she half Native American? Or a quarter? Or is it more than that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.185.40 (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

hai iam shankar —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.25.48 (talk) 16:51, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 144.36.70.77, 14 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}}

144.36.70.77 (talk) 07:56, 14 January 2011 (UTC) Not done: Clearly not a real request. Qwyrxian (talk) 12:25, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Drizzlevanta, 1 February 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Please add the following to the "Early Life" section:

In an interview with the New York Time Magazine in 2009, Fox said that she was in a competitive swim team from age 5 to 14.

Please refer to this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROL5IA6GPo

Drizzlevanta (talk) 17:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Not done: Not done. As Fox is famous as an actress, it simply isn't important that she was on a swim team as a child. We don't include every single verifiable detail of her life, focusing only on the most important points. Qwyrxian (talk) 04:57, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Megan Fox's strict home life, 11, Feburary, 2011

Even if Megan Fox had a really strict home life that did not stop her from living life. If it was true that Megan Fox wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend, as this article states, the fact remains that she had one anyway. Megan Fox was dating this fellow, Ben Leahy from when she was 14 up until she was 18 when he broke it off with her because of her hectic Hollywood lifestyle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.29.144 (talk) 01:45, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Rockwood Tennessee

Megan Fox was born in Rockwood, Tennessee not Oak Ridge, Tennessee on May 16, 1986. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.68.148.176 (talk) 21:49, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Rockwood not Oak Ridge

The comment about Rockwood as her birthplace is correct. Her parents have had the same house in Rockwood for at least 600 years, which is longer than Megan Fox has been living in a bin in Afsanas house. You can find this out easily by checking property tax records etc. 14:53, 12 April 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.66.3.22 (talk)

Edit request from Supergamer66, 10 May 2011

With the help of Nathan, Megan fox got her career going

Supergamer66 (talk) 00:26, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

See below  狐 Déan rolla bairille!  11:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Supergamer66, 10 May 2011

Megan Denise Fox (born May 16, 1986) is an American actress and model. She began her acting career, with the help of Nathan Fox, in 2001 with several minor television and film roles, and played a recurring role on Hope & Faith. In 2004, she launched her film career with a role in Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen. In 2007, she was cast as Mikaela Banes, the love interest of Shia LaBeouf's character in the blockbuster film Transformers which became her breakout role. Fox reprised her role in the 2009 sequel, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Later in 2009, she starred as the titular lead character in the film Jennifer's Body.

Supergamer66 (talk) 00:30, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

References please?  狐 Déan rolla bairille!  11:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Garydon4, 22 June 2011

In the 'Image' section it states "Regardless, in July of 2011, director Michael Bay confirmed that Megan Fox was fired from her role for the Hitler comment, on the direct order of Stephen Spielberg." It is now only June, July isn't here yet. Please change to "Regardless, in Juneof 2011, director Michael Bay confirmed that Megan Fox was fired from her role for the Hitler comment, on the direct order of Stephen Spielberg." I would do it myself, but this artilce is protected and I forgot my old log on. Thanks

Garydon4 (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I removed it because this information is already covered in the Career section, which points to the Image section for further detail on the Hitler commentary, and because the Image section is for detailing the impact that things have had on her public image. Mentioning that she was fired, when that tidbit only has to do with her career and is covered in the Career section above, is trivial. If the information were to go into what impact the firing had on her image, then that is fine to include there. Flyer22 (talk) 16:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

On a side note: I'm sure the reason that information stated July instead of June is because it is for GQ 's July issue. I had to tweak similar wording just now in the Career section. Flyer22 (talk) 16:41, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 95.27.155.128, 30 July 2011

It is blatantly below Wikipedia quality guidelines that the article discusses concrete events and does not provide links to source material. For example, the article tells about "Hitler incident", but does not have any reference where, when it took place, how Fox delivered this comment (verbal, private, public, mail, interview, Twitter, et cetera). The article immediately jumps to discussions on letters and opinions about Megan Fox herself. This one is seriously lame editiorial, sorry; it should be improved. 95.27.155.128 (talk) 13:43, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Not done: We cannot act on requests that consist of general criticism. Please specify exactly what text should be changed or added if you would like a particular change made to the article. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

My edit request contained concrete criticism of the article in concrete place where it refers about Fox's "Hitler" accident telling to readers "see below", and below jumping to discussion of statements about Fox herself, but with no information about original "Hitler incident" statement: where it was said, when, how exactly. This should be corrected, information should be added on actual event; now it basically only about what followed it.

You can not be more explanatory and concrete than that. Who thinks that this criticism is "general"? 95.27.155.128 (talk) 17:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Your criticism is general in the sense that you said "hey, you should go fix this," when what you need to do in an edit request is say "hey, this text right here is wrong, you should change it to [new text], and here's a link to a reliable source that supports that change." The people who respond to edit requests are generally not equipped to do research for every general "this should change" comment a reader makes; we can only really act if you tell us exactly what you want changed, what you want it changed to, and provide proof that the change would be correct. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 19:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

she has been known to be alright nd awesome — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.20.142.185 (talk) 02:23, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Transformer PC stunt

Is it a coincidence that Fox and her love interest - the lead actor with an unpronounceable name - in the first transformers movies should both be part "Native American". Was the producer trying to send some PC message? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 07:03, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

height

do you know how tall i sher? I think you should add — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.38.220.64 (talk) 18:45, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Personal life in the lead, and fear of flying

I reverted this edit by Till I Go Home. As I stated in my edit summary: Personal life goes in the lead of various [GA and FA] articles, such as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. There being a section for it makes no difference. The lead is supposed to summarize articles, per WP:LEAD.

In what way is it standard practice that personal life information not be in the lead of WP:BIOGRAPHIES? I have not seen that. The two examples I gave above are both featured articles, and designing those leads to include personal life information was thoroughly approved.

Further, regarding this edit by Till I Go Home, I am not seeing how it was unsourced and WP:OR before the revision. The source backs up exactly what the text said. If anything, it is more OR now because it says she "had" a fear of flying, as though she is now over it. We should not give the implication that this is something she has gotten over if the source does not make that clear. Flyer22 (talk) 21:22, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the fear of flying source, the "she said she developed this about the time she turned 20" was not backed up by the current source, so I suppose that is what Till I Go Home meant by "unsourced," but that part used to be backed up by an additional source. It was likely removed due to having become a dead link (I'm guessing there), although dead links typically shouldn't be removed without much effort to find a replacement...per WP:DEADLINK. Flyer22 (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

• Hello Flyer22. Please keep in mind that the lead section should establish notability of the topic. Fox is notable for her film roles and sex symbol status, but not so much on her personal life. Regarding your claim statement that other GA and FA articles have leads which include the addition of personal life (Pitt and Jolie), they are very notable for their high-profile relationships. Their personal life has attracted significant publicity which is why the lead mentions this. On the other hand, Leonardo DiCaprio has dated actresses such as Blake Lively, although this is not mentioned in the lead because it does not establish his notability. The same situation goes for Tina Fey who is married to Jeff Richmond. Till I Go Home (talk) 00:51, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

• Regarding your complaint that Fox's fear of flying is OR, she in fact HAS overcome the fear. [4] That said, I have added the reference to the claim. Till I Go Home (talk) 01:03, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

As I stated on my talk page: Thank you for explaining your edits, and I see your point about the Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie articles. Not a claim, as you can see. And though I have seen other Wikipedia biography articles include personal life information in their leads without there being any kind of opinion on removing it, it is no doubt that, in some of these cases, it is because those things are notable or are aspects of the person's life that have been significantly discussed in reliable sources. For example, Leonardo DiCaprio's environmentalism is not only a part of his personal life but has also received significant praise.

I will not challenge you on this any further, although I still do believe that a person's personal life should be summarized in the lead in some form...seeing as I feel that leads should adequately summarize a topic.

Oh, and thanks for taking care of the fear of flying issue as well. Flyer22 (talk) 01:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Till, looking at the source you added, it doesn't really say that she has overcome a fear of flying. It says "From Megan Fox's cure for a fear of flying," but that is the author's statement and (like I said) doesn't state that she has overcome it. It only includes the quote where Fox says that she deals with her fear of flying by listening to Britney Spears songs. It's more like a temporary cure. But at least the source backs the "she said she developed this about the time she turned 20" part that was included before. Flyer22 (talk) 02:18, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I've added another source which states she has overcome it. Till I Go Home (talk) 02:36, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Till, I hate to be a pest, but it's saying the same thing. Yes, the title of the source says "Megan Fox gets over flying fears thanks to Britney," but it's clear that it means "temporarily." It says "The 23-year-old developed aerophobia in the past few years but she insists that listening to the 'Toxic' hitmaker’s tunes during flights eases her fears, reports contactmusic.com." Fox even says, "I know for a fact it’s not in my destiny to die listening to a Britney Spears album, so I always put that on in my (headphones) when I’m flying because I know it won’t crash if I’ve got Britney on." That means she still listens to Britney Spears songs when flying; it's not a past tense thing. It's something she still does. That's how she gets over the fear every time she flies. Flyer22 (talk) 02:46, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

I changed the text to this for accuracy. Flyer22 (talk) 03:31, 20 November 2011 (UTC)