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I propose changing the title of this article to Michel Suleiman (I accidently created this) as a Google search of ""Michel Sulaiman" Lebanon army" gets only 546 results (including this page) whereas a search of ""Michel Suleiman" Lebanon army" gets 51,500. Joshdboz 11:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that "Sulaiman" should not be kept. But the website  names him Michel Sleiman. I think we should go with the name on the official army website. --Hamsterlopithecus (talk) 15:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Sounds good, I hadn't noticed that one, but it gets a healthy 24,000 hits on Google. If he does eventually become president I'm sure the foreign press will settle on something. Joshdboz (talk) 23:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- I've just randomly given the article a cleanup - I've standardised on Sulaiman in the text, only because that is the name of the article. If a different spelling, as seems likely, is found to be the most common, then obviously whatever that is should be used consistently throughout, and the article should be moved. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 16:54, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
The name should be Michel Sleiman, which is the correct name. Please change the name as I am being unable to do so, and redirect Michel Sulaiman to Michel Sleiman. I've also corrected some information, expanded the article and updated it. The only remaining thing to do is to change the name of the article and also of the image to Michel Sleiman. Thank you (I did an extensive investigation on the correct name and biography, so they are reliable) Crimson9 (talk) 20:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed that on the Lebanese Army website(http://www.lebarmy.gov.lb/english/Commander_12.asp), the name has been changed to Michel Sleiman Crimson9 (talk)
- You should be able to move it yourself - click on the 'move' tab at the top of the article and follow the instructions. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- The title for the wikipedia Article says Michel Sleiman where as the rest of the article refers to him as Michel Suleiman. Any particular reason we are doing this, or should this be changed? Thanks. -- OtherAJ (talk) 01:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
"Discovering Israeli spying and terrorist networks,"
I believe that he discovered an "Israeli spying network", but did he discover an "Israeli terrorist network"? Which terrorist network would that have been? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 09:56, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
This article's notability is dubious--how little time will pass before he passes into history? This hagiography looks like it was written by his Boyscout master. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimwell (talk • contribs) 18:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there is any doubt that the president of a major nation passes our notability guidelines. J Milburn (talk) 19:21, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
The section I marked is basically copied from  and might even be a copyright infringement. It should be using sources other than the LAF website which will obviously glorify him. Yonatan talk 18:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
First of all you're free to add information from other sources, and second the Lebanese Army gave permission for the use of the enitre biography used on the official site so there is no copyright issue. And I don't think there is something that glorifies him, these are facts, you can research and ask about every line in this section to see if they are valid or not, so I don't see based on what you're saying they are glorifying him. The Bared war? The redeployment of the army in the south? The Labbouni flag? These are all dated, documented and known facts. Crimson9 22:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crimson9 (talk • contribs)
- For the permission, there's email@example.com. If it hasn't been authorized through there, you can't use it. As for the glorification, after I removed most of it, it isn't there but attributing every action that happened while he was commander of the LAF to him is too much. Who said he came up with the solution to the 2006 Lebanon War. When did he "confront the Israeli Army and support the resistance until the liberation of the south in the year 2000"? Yonatan talk 02:47, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
The article states: "He offered a plan to end the war" and not "came up with a solution" so at least try to read carefully and quote correctly. When did the Lebanese Army confront the Israeli Army? You obviously have no idea about Lebanon or the Lebanese Army plus you're not even lebanese so why don't you try not getting involved in something you don't know. In the last Israeli-Hizbullah war, many army checkpoints where bombed and the Army intervened and fired back, in addition to many previous confrontations between the Lebanese Army and Israeli Army. Crimson9 16:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
- "Military achievements", "Fighting terrorism and extremism" - this reads like a CV, not a neutral biography!126.96.36.199 (talk) 08:32, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Quote: Suleiman was born in Amsheet. He joined the Lebanese Armed Forces in 1967 and went on to graduate from the Military Academy as 2nd Lieutenant in 1988.
I am not an expert in Lebanese Army, but this can't be true, can it? It took him 20 years to reach the lowest officer rank?? And then, 20 years later he's the superior General?? In Germany, you're promoted to 2nd Lieutenant after 3 years. It may be more in some countries, but never ever 20 years! In 1988, he was 40 years old, so he must have been a Major or Lieutenant Colonel. There's got to be a mistake somewhere.
Presidency: weird vandalism revert
During a vandalism revert, the following line was removed:
- The priorities of President Suleiman's presidential term were set out clearly, notably:
I understand it's not sourced, and perhaps even biased, but without it the list of priorities following lacks any context and looks out of place. I therefore re-added it. --oKtosiTe talk 14:16, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Controversy over Murr 2008 Israeli attack policy
Based on what secondary sources say about 08BEIRUT372 and what the cable itself says, it's not clear if Suleiman voluntarily wished Israel to attack Lebanon and/or wished to allow a limited invasion of Lebanon by Israel. The text of the cable and Murr and Suleiman's relative political/administrative positions meant that in principle it was not up to Suleiman to have an opinion on such a thing (unless the Constitution of Lebanon has something allowing military disobedience in the case that a civilian politician encourages another country's military to attack Lebanon). This is why, for BLP reasons, i have toned down the way that Ya Libnan described the content. The thing more relevant to this article (Suleiman) seems to me that Suleiman was instructed by Murr, and that "Middle East-based, English-language Arab bloggers" reacted strongly. I presume that by now Suleiman must have made some public statements (denial, or stating that he was just following orders, or dismissing Murr from government positions, or totally avoiding the issue?) - anyone with reliable sources on these please add them. In any case, it seems to me that being a senior military commander instructed in a policy to allow a military attack on your own country is obviously a notable event, and it's reliably sourced.
However, i'm not sure whether the subsection title is NPOV enough. And should this go chronologically in an earlier section (March 2008-ish) or in the Presidency section? The instruction by Murr was in March 2008, but the controversy only started in December 2010. Boud (talk) 01:35, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
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