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[edit]References 6 through 13 which are based on quotes from the game actually do not support the sentences they are ateched to in the article. This needs to be changed to phrases from the game which do support te ideas in the article. Veritiel (talk) 19:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Midna's language
[edit]Her speech is unintelligible, but it's actually made from tiny bits of normal English speech in garbled order, as demonstrated here. I think this should be mentioned in the article. 82.158.183.178 (talk) 19:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
Uh...
[edit]Can someone tell me why exactly Midna has her own page? I can get Link, Zelda and Ganon since they're the main characters and Tingle is a recurring character so I guess he gets a pass but Midna appeared in one game. I'm just saying if we have a page on her could someone make one for all the other LoZ companions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.117.40 (talk) 19:02, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia uses an out-of-universe criteria for inclusion, which Midna uses. Character articles are created based on their critical reception, not how important they are to their own series. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 00:25, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the giant Reception section. This is what makes characters Notable enough for articles. Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- OK, but that doesn't exactly truly justify it. Midna is kinda famous but I don't think she's that famous enough to get her own article. Do you know how much praise Navi got when OoT came out? I'm not in charge here but I just really fail to see why she exactly needs her own article. It's like making an article for Majora just because according to recent polls he's the second-to-most popular LoZ villain behind Ganon and it's not happening. --24.46.117.40 (talk) 03:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Navi could get her/it's own article also. I think someone was working on that. Because Midna has had reception on her character, she is notable enough for an article. Take a look at WP:N and WP:FICTION. Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:41, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- It DOES truly justify it, according to guidelines. Majora and Navi don't have a similarly large reception section yet, and I doubt Majora will ever. It's about content, not how relevant the character is to its own universe.
- I was working on the Navi article, I think. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 10:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Navi could get her/it's own article also. I think someone was working on that. Because Midna has had reception on her character, she is notable enough for an article. Take a look at WP:N and WP:FICTION. Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:41, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- OK, but that doesn't exactly truly justify it. Midna is kinda famous but I don't think she's that famous enough to get her own article. Do you know how much praise Navi got when OoT came out? I'm not in charge here but I just really fail to see why she exactly needs her own article. It's like making an article for Majora just because according to recent polls he's the second-to-most popular LoZ villain behind Ganon and it's not happening. --24.46.117.40 (talk) 03:34, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the giant Reception section. This is what makes characters Notable enough for articles. Blake (Talk·Edits) 04:37, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Besides reception, she's the second most important character in the game — the one who accompanies Link all the time, and a key part of the story. You can measure character relevance by popularity, acclaim, time on screen, lines of dialogue or importance in the story — by any of these criteria Midna deserves an article. 82.158.183.178 (talk) 19:19, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not use those methods to determine Notability. Popularity between fans means nothing. Coverage in third party reliable sources means everything. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Whoa brah! He was agreeing with us. :p - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:09, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- In the fact that Midna deserves an article, but in the wrong way. They think reception means nothing, when it means everything. Importance in the story means nothing. Some series don't even have any character articles. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:30, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Whoa brah! He was agreeing with us. :p - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:09, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- Wikipedia does not use those methods to determine Notability. Popularity between fans means nothing. Coverage in third party reliable sources means everything. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:31, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
A few things about pictures...
[edit]1.) Should the picture of Midna in her true form really be overshadowing the picture of Midna in her imp form? I mean yeah, she's much taller in her normal body, but the player only sees her true form for a few minutes at the end, whereas you see her in her imp form for the whole rest of the game. Since Midna in her imp form is what players get to see more of - and is thus the more notable of her forms - I think that any picture of her true form should be separated from the picture of imp-Midna and moved further down the page.
2.) Couldn't a better image for imp-Midna be chosen than the current one? Instead of the current image, which shows her all angry and tense, we could use one of the images showing her with her devilish grin; said image would do a better job at conveying her enigmatic and snarky personality. EDIT: Snarkey..? Okay, Yes, I agree. She is rather.. uh... 'Snarkey,' thoughtout the game. Surely the most conpedible.
3.) Why is it that an unofficial fan-made render of true-Midna is even being used in the first place? Surely if it is necessary to provide a picture of Midna in her true form, we can use an actual in-game screenshot or official artwork from Nintendo instead of some non-notable fan-made picture from an unknown source?
4.) Wouldn't it be a good idea to provide a picture of Midna riding Wolf Link somewhere in the article? After all, Midna's primary gameplay function, aside from giving the player hints and the ability to warp, was to provide Wolf Link with extra abilities. Therefore, it might be a good idea to give people an impression of what this looks like in-game. Abodos (talk) 06:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Midna doesn't become a being of light
[edit]The article states: "Princess Zelda uses her abilities to heal Midna, though causing Zelda to disappear, and Midna to become a being of light". The reference for this is: "Midna: Zelda... I've taken all that you had to give...though I did not want it."
That does not necessarily mean that she becomes a being of light, merely that she's absorped healing power/magic. Someone's made a leap here so I'm going to remove it - if someone can find a plausible reference then by all means, revert it. groovygower (talk) 20:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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