Talk:Muhammad Usman (cricketer)

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Incorrect Player

The stats in this article refer to Muhammad Usman, not Mohammad Usman. The reference is to the latter and birth date is taken from there, but the stats and debut information is for the prior. Muhammad Usman has actually played ODI and T20I cricket for the UAE and so this article presumably is intended to be about him.

There seem to be different spellings for this person. Please visit WP:RM and do not make cut+paste moves. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 09:51, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have the links to the two different biographies? Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 10:00, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 15 August 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Target was db-move tagged. Answered. It appears that some editors tried to give this the current title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Please do not do that again. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. (non-admin closure) — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 07:24, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammad Usman (cricketer) → Muhammad Usman (cricketer) – The match information text refers to Muhammad Usman http://www.espncricinfo.com/wcl-championship-2015-17/content/player/974719.html who has played ODI and T20 cricket for the UAE. The Cricinfo reference and dob are incorrect for this player and instead refer to a non-international UAE played called Mohammad Usman http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/927445.html. They are not the same player and the biography is about the prior, international player. Currently Muhammad Usman (cricketer) redirects here but in fact should be its own entry Bs1jac (talk) 10:04, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Commment Both links go to the same person. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 12:08, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural oppose. Cryptic rationale with no proposed move. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 02:02, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've got to the bottom of this (I think). This page should be at Muhammad Usman (cricketer) and the current title should be for this guy who debuted today. I'll request a technical deletion of the redirect page to speedy this up. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 11:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Commment Sorry if this is not clear (and I realise I originally pasted the same cricinfo link twice). The article discusses a different player to that in the reference. The date of birth matches the player in the reference, but the prose is about the current international player (spelt 'Muhammad'). If you follow the current reference to Cricinfo, you see the player shown has not played any international cricket, contrary to the prose of the article, confirming it is the wrong player. There needs to be two separate articles, or the alternative is to rewrite this article to be about the younger player with no international appearances (probably not warranting a page right now) and create a new page for 'Muhammad Usman (cricketer, born 1985)', or change the references and dob info to be about the international player discussed in the prose. Bs1jac (talk) 11:20, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This page just needs moving to the other name and a hatnote placed on each. I've requested the technical deletion of the redirect page. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 11:37, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that even within Cricinfo articles they sometimes refer to the other player. For example, he is making his debut in today's game, but I suspect this might be an error that will be corrected later. Both are currently listed in the Cricinfo player list for UAE (http://www.espncricinfo.com/uae/content/player/country.html?country=27). Either way they appear to be different players (confusingly!) Bs1jac (talk) 13:54, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed today's scorecard has been corrected on Cricinfo to reflect that the player involved was Muhammad Usman not a debutant.

Brilliant. Right support move to Muhammad Usman (cricketer). The other person isn't notable (yet). Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 07:04, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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