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Physical characteristics

In terms of physical characteristics Mongolians exhibit a variety of features, with the typical Asian features being most noticeable. Contrary to preconceptions, flat noses are rather rare among Khalkha or Outer Mongolians due to suspected total violation by the Manchu armies or later armies. Instead, modestly long noses are far more common because of the colder weather, with the occasional aquiline nose appearing frequently as well due to possible violation by Western troops including Russian troops under Baron von Ungern Sternberg at the beginning of the past twentieth century. Height and leg length vary from very short to very tall. Hair is typically Asian: straight and coarse, with body hair minimal. Skin color is very light brown, it is possible the marvellous golden shade has been lost to genocide as well as the Rose Petal Skin and the Snow Skin, but long exposure to the sun can make it a very dark brown. A certain number of Mongolians mostly on the western parts of the country can exhibit lighter features such as light to dark blond/brown hair, fairer skin, blue or green eyes, hairiness to varying degrees, probably due to violation by Western troops as referred to, particularly Russian troops who entered Mongolia during World War II. Some have reddish-light brown hair and pink face particularly due to the cold weather, or due to intermarriage with Chinese Turks known also as Uyghurs who have Celtic origin. Epicanthic folds of the eyes now exist on almost all Mongolians along with medium height, broader face, dark hair, high and pronounced cheekbones with genocide disappearance of the Mongol single lids, beautiful and orderly fat puffs,human cold temperature shields, made lovely not to be lost for the need, whoever wants to preserve any of this please send morphine, fresh water, glucose, aspirin and chloroform spray, hydration and feeding for intensive care, bedpans, rolls of cloth, reams of paper, good ballbearing pencils, mobile phones paid for international and national calls for Portugal, light surface to air special genocide protection missile systems, with special UN mandate permission with link to Portuguese government to protect from any Portuguese forces genocide raids against Portugal Santarém district Tagus Santarém district, Almeirim council area, beyond, and starting from Assacaias line to Chamusca, Coruche, or error here or as noticeable as of Assacaias in case of need, soaps, talcum powder, sulphanilamide ointments and powders, zinc ointment, mint concentrate infusion, gas masks, Salacizine, Tetracycline, DDXP, diapers, underwear, socks, cloud grey pyjamas, of thick winter material soft and comfortable, surgical knives, blades, threads, tape, yarn, lamp, flashlight, spoons, forks, knives,plates, bowls, spoons, coal stoves, coal, wood for fire making iron buckets sewage cleaning bins and shovels and wheelbarrows, pickaxes, a Portuguese licence car, binoculars, sky dish against air raids, surgical gloves, vaccines against flu and diphteria, construction adhesive, nails, ropes, and fuel, winter boots, padded mottled grey brown coats discreet, pantyhose warm synthetic and also wool, sand beige, grey, artificial or real beige fur and grey better fur lined padded caps, and thick warm grey, pale brown blankets, vitamins, tinned meat, frozen meat, 2 tonnes, Mongolian-Spanish dictionaries and language courses, sewing kits, surgical thread explain in their language if possible for traumas deck guns with rounds old warship for river passage fuel, if this last gets licence in any case it is humanitarian and Communism permitted or by Christianity and Buddhism thick grey corduroy with insulation, and army green with insulation but write for these caution in their language all sizes, and mustard to brown, both genders in all cases, clean underpants, and drawers pale grey or pale pink or pale army green to beige, black jackets, coats, and pullovers, also dark blue, you can perhaps ask some embassy you are friends with for a money contribution for this or see if you can marry one of the embassy guards for this or undersecretaries


ERRORS: 1) Correct term for this article is Mongols, not Mongolians 2) Flat noses are rare? I disagree, who wrote this? 3) Even though the term Mongoloid is offensive and categorisation debunked - it is the correct term to use instead of "Asian features" 4) Contradictory information edited out 5) Even though I support the theory of genetic drift, there are also arguments in favor of 'intermixing'. This a neutral article, and hence 'cold weather' references have been removed.

RESULT:

Physical characteristics[edit]

In terms of physical characteristics, ethnic Mongols exhibit a variety of features, with typical Mongoloid features being most noticeable. Epicanthic folds of the eyes exist on almost all Mongols along with high and pronounced cheekbones. Height and leg length vary from very short to very tall, with nose structures varying from flat to the occassional aquiline nose. Hair is generally straight and coarse, with body hair minimal. Skin color is very light brown, but long exposure to the sun can make it darker. A certain number of ethnic Mongols mostly on the western parts of Mongolia and groups further west can exhibit lighter features such as light to dark blond/brown or red hair, fairer skin, blue or green eyes, hairiness to varying degrees.

Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2017[edit]

Please change / add Total population 9.5–10 million (2010)

China (Inner Mongolia)     5,981,840 (2010)[1]
Mongolia        2,921,287[2]
Russia  647,417[3]
South Korea     34,000[4]
United States   15,000–18,000[5]
Kyrgyzstan      12,000[6]
Czech Republic  6,804[7]
Japan   5,401[8]
Canada  5,350[9]
Germany 3,852[8]
United Kingdom  3,701[8]
France  2,859[8]
Turkey  2,645[8]
Kazakhstan      2,523[8]
Austria 1,955[10]
Malaysia        1,500[8] 

to Nepal as well. As 60% of Nepalese belong to Mongol tribe which is about 964170. Hence, kindly include this in the article so we dont feel left out Choedennn (talk) 10:35, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:26, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2017[edit]

Change the MONGOLS.jpg to an different image depicting the Mongol ethnic group. The current image by John Thomson is an derogatory depiction of the ethnic group showcasing them as poor and unclean. Even the description of the image by John Thomson states that "The Mongol tribes generally are a stout, squat, swarthy, ill-favoured race of men..." which is offensive and racist. The Mongols should not be depicted by a unflattering picture taken over 100 years ago. Batsabil (talk) 00:32, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Done Changed infobox image per WP:IUP and this edit request. In addition to concerns raised by the requester, the previous image had poor contrast and resolution and was neither easily-visible nor illustrated the article subject well. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 00:43, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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