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Nationality

Surely, nationality is about which passport someone has. Rwandan-Scottish may be perceived as an ethnicity, but not a nationality. British is the correct nationality. Francis Hannaway (talk) 13:45, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rwandan-Scottish for the lede, and United Kingdom for the infobox, this is the format used for British citizens who specify a home nations identity.Halbared (talk) 20:29, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1. He has Rwandan nationality. 2. If a Scotsman moved to Japan and took Japanese nationality, who would consider him to be Japanese? Rustygecko (talk) 20:06, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It can be done. Japanese nationality law#Acquisition and loss of nationality. Adakiko (talk) 13:05, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Over three years ago, I sourced an article where Gatwa identifies himself as a Brit. It was later removed. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 10:10, 26 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Current citations for "Rwandan-Scottish"

Two sources give Ncuti Gatwa as "Rwandan-Scottish". One of the sources being the The National (Scotland). Why shouldn't Gatwa's be listed as "Rwandan-Scottish"? Regarding dictionaries as sources: wp:Dictionaries as sources.

"Black and Scottish — 'I thought I was the only black person in the world'". BBC. 9 May 2022. Archived from the original on 12 July 2022. Retrieved 8 August 2022.
Jane McLeod (9 May 2022). "Who is Ncuti Gatwa? Meet the Rwandan-Scottish actor taking over as Doctor Who". The National (Scotland). Retrieved 20 November 2022.</ref>

If a Scottish newspaper calls Gatwa "Rwandan-Scottish", why shouldn't that be stated in the article? Adakiko (talk) 12:59, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As per note a in MOS:BIO#Notes there isn't a preference between referring to someone as British over Scottish and it should be based on what it used in sources. The majority of sources that I've seen refer to him as Scottish so I don't think it needs to be changed to British. Suonii180 (talk) 18:47, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Because he's not Scottish. He has no Scottish ancestry. He is Rwandan. 2A02:C7C:A81D:3100:34AD:5EDF:AED4:B641 (talk) 07:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you can cite a reliable source stating that this is an important distinction, we'll take what The National has to say over what you, a random person on the internet, have to say. DonQuixote (talk) 13:11, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He's not Scottish in any way, shape or form. Just like he wouldn't be English if he lived in England or Welsh if he lived in Wales. British is the nationality. He is Rwandan by birth and ethnicity and holds Rwandan and British citizenship. Scottish has no part in any of this. If I wrote an article in a newspaper stating the sky was brown would you think that was a reliable source? even through it defies all common sense and reality based facts. The agenda driven woketards are taking over Wiki now. Sad. 2A02:C7C:AC54:9100:7C29:6251:F583:AA8D (talk) 11:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@2A02:C7C:AC54:9100:7C29:6251:F583:AA8D thank you for informing me (who went through the entire education system here and barely remembers life prior to moving up) that I am not permitted to be Scottish. M1ddleM00se (talk) 18:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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He will not be the fourth Scottish actor, he is not a Scottish national, I'm not sure if he has a British passport, regardless he is only Rwandan, to be Scottish you have to be from Scotland. 2A00:23EE:18E0:38F:829:E471:9E74:3A5E (talk) 08:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The BBC and The National say that he's from Scotland (both cited in the lede).

Personally, I trust Sylvester McCoy, Peter Capaldi, Michelle Gomez, David Tenant and Karen Gillan--all of whom are proud that he's Scottish--over some random person on the internet. DonQuixote (talk) 10:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly your citation of 5 individuals, none of whom is on the Trusted Source List, is an opinion, don't you think? And not a NPOV opinion?

The National says Rwandan-Scottish.

BBC says Scottish-Rwandan.

Personally, I find the whole thing unnecessarily confusing as do others, apparently.

Why can't he simply be proud of being Rwandan?

Danindenver (talk) Danindenver (talk) 22:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hence why I said 'personally'. Another key phrase 'over some random person on the internet'.

Also, why can't he be proud of being both? DonQuixote (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Get away with that nonsense. You'd no be so strict were he white. M1ddleM00se (talk) 20:09, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If an English person moved to Scotland and started calling himself Scottish, it would be just as ludicrous and rightly be questioned in the same way. The fact you bring up skin colour shows you have an agenda to push this false narrative as if it was a fact. Ncuti is not Scottish. This is a fact. 2A02:C7C:AC54:9100:7C29:6251:F583:AA8D (talk) 11:52, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image is too tall. How do we crop it?

Rights to image are w/ BBC or Disney, but the image needs cropping. Wayyyyyy too much dead space. BarntToust (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Click on the image. Follow the links to Wikimedia Commons. Download, edit and upload the new version. DonQuixote (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or use c:Commons:CropTool. Nardog (talk) 22:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]